Longbow
Enlightened
At one time Surefires were worth the buck. But today it's questionable.
cy said:part of the engineering that makes surefire is the bulb assembly. in particular P60 series bulbs are designed to survive gunfire.
look carefully at how P60 lamp is constructed. notice how ground wire is tack welded to spring, insuring a solid conection.
two layers of springs combined with M2 head suspends bulb assembly and batteries. allowing Surefire to survive shock while mounted as a weapons light.
with G2 what you have is a low cost light with surefire quality beam.
note while replacement costs are high for P60 bulbs. if you are going to have problems with the bulb. probably will be within first few minutes of burntime.
I've never had a surefire bulb fail with exception of two brand new lights burning out. called surefire about problem and they promptly sent a replacement.
that's customer service!
Longbow said:At one time Surefires were worth the buck. But today it's questionable.
Firebladz said:I see way to many people sending their lights in for warranty work, even new out of the box... Where is the quality control? . . .
Firebladz said:Agreed...
I see way to many people sending their lights in for warranty work, even new out of the box... Where is the quality control?
I mean these lights are mostly designed for LEOs and military and with their price tags there just shouldn't be any issues what so ever out of the box...
I am NOT bashing surefire but I just think people should expect more and surefire should expect more fom themself...
I mean they are supposed to be the top dog the best of the best?
Firebladz.
vtunderground said:IMHO, no, Surefire's are not worth the money. My LEAST reliable flashlight is my E2e (bulb assembly falls out and breaks during battery changes, clickie switch occasionally stops working). For the same money I bought a Pelican M6 LED HA-III, which is brighter (brighter spill and longer throw), has a Luxeon III LED, regulation, longer battery life, and is of comparable quality. I have heavily used and abused the Pelican, but haven't had a single problem.
vtunderground said:Haesslich: No, it's not a fair comparison, because the M6 LED HA-III is such a better value I made the comparison because they both cost around $100.
TonkinWarrior: That runtime chart is for the unregulated PM6 LED. I would LOVE to see a runtime chart for the regulated PM6 HA-III... I believe that mine drops out of regulation sooner than the three hours of the KL1, but it'd be interesting to see how flat the regulation is.