Cree XP-G 3000k 90+ CRI vs Nichia 219 4500k 92 CRI: which one do you prefer and why?

[psychbeat]

Hmm I'm confused- why would a 219 be regulated any differently than an XPG?
Or is the VF way higher on the 219 &/or more sensitive to heat&current?


Bak on topic tho- I'd still like to see lux and flux of a Qbin 90CRI xpg vs 92CRI 219

 

[Lux-RC]

Bak on topic tho- I'd still like to see lux and flux of a Qbin 90CRI xpg vs 92CRI 219

yes, this is already done. I post some pics/ratings right after I return from the trees tonight.

 

[psychbeat]

^^^ripping! Thanks man it's MUCH appreciated.

Yay CPF!!

 

[Lux-RC]

just returned from the trees (it's 3:00 AM here). 11 makeups were captured (all triples, CARCLO 10507 lens, all driven with 1.5 amp).

DOWNLOAD THE PICTURE (1200 x 1072, it's TOO large to post it here)

LIST:
#1 CREE XP-E R3 WD0 Cool White
#2 CREE XP-E R3 4D0 Outdoor White
#3 CREE XP-G U1 Q3 ra90 HI CRI 3000K CCT
#4 CREE XP-G Q5 3000K CCT Warm White
#5 CREE XP-G R5 1C0 6500K CCT Cool White
#6 CREE XP-G R4 4D0 4500K CCT Outdoor White
#7 CREE XT-E R5 6500K CCT Cool White
#8 CREE XT-E 3000K CCT Warm White
#9 NICHIA 219 R10 L SW45 ra92 HI CRI 4500K CCT Neutral White
#10 NICHIA 219 5000K CCT Neutral White
#10 SAMSUNG 3535 5000K CCT Neutral White

CAMERA SETTINGS:
NIKON D60 AF-S NIKKOR 18mm
ISO 100
W/B DIRECT SUNLIGHT 0:0
5 sec F4.2

 

[Moddoo]

Excellent work as usual Serge.

Thank You.

 

[THE_dAY]

Lux-RC, thanks a bunch for all your hard work there, very much appreciated!

The XPE R3 4D0 (Outdoor) LED seems to hold its own in color rendering compared to the awesome 219 HCRI.

 

[psychbeat]

Wow- that's one of the best comparisons EVER!
Up there with the Russian tunnel.
Thanks again.

The XT-E does appear to throw a tad better than the XP-G
I'm surprised the 219 is as floody as it is considering the slightly narrower viewing angle.

Can't really go wrong with any of these!

 

[Canuke]

Wow- that's one of the best comparisons EVER!
Up there with the Russian tunnel.
Thanks again.

The XT-E does appear to throw a tad better than the XP-G
I'm surprised the 219 is as floody as it is considering the slightly narrower viewing angle.

Can't really go wrong with any of these!

That cool white XT-E has by far the worst color shift over viewing angle. Look at the yellow fringe on its hotspot, none of the other emitters show anything that bad. It confirms what I just read about a hour ago about someone's Mag mod using XT-E's.

 

[The_Driver]

just returned from the trees (it's 3:00 AM here). 11 makeups were captured (all triples, CARCLO 10507 lens, all driven with 1.5 amp).

DOWNLOAD THE PICTURE (1200 x 1072, it's TOO large to post it here)

LIST:
#1 CREE XP-E R3 WD0 Cool White
#2 CREE XP-E R3 4D0 Outdoor White
#3 CREE XP-G U1 Q3 ra90 HI CRI 3000K CCT
#4 CREE XP-G Q5 3000K CCT Warm White
#5 CREE XP-G R5 1C0 6500K CCT Cool White
#6 CREE XP-G R4 4D0 4500K CCT Outdoor White
#7 CREE XT-E R5 6500K CCT Cool White
#8 CREE XT-E 3000K CCT Warm White
#9 NICHIA 219 R10 L SW45 ra92 HI CRI 4500K CCT Neutral White
#10 NICHIA 219 5000K CCT Neutral White
#10 SAMSUNG 3535 5000K CCT Neutral White

CAMERA SETTINGS:
NIKON D60 AF-S NIKKOR 18mm
ISO 100
W/B DIRECT SUNLIGHT 0:0
5 sec F4.2

Very nice beamshots, thanks for making them and posting them here

Luckily I bought some of the Nichia's, the beamshots show that they are very nice indeed

 

[csshih]

nice!

Craig

 

[mvyrmnd]

I may have to buy a 219 based L334 to retrofit into my Tri-EDC....

 

[mvyrmnd]

That cool white XT-E has by far the worst color shift over viewing angle. Look at the yellow fringe on its hotspot, none of the other emitters show anything that bad. It confirms what I just read about a hour ago about someone's Mag mod using XT-E's.

The XT-E Warm isn't much better....

 

[wquiles]

Excellent work as usual Serge.

Thank You.

+1

Outstanding work Serge

Will

 

[ites]

just returned from the trees (it's 3:00 AM here). 11 makeups were captured (all triples, CARCLO 10507 lens, all driven with 1.5 amp).

DOWNLOAD THE PICTURE (1200 x 1072, it's TOO large to post it here)

Very interesting! What do you think when you are looking at pictures with XP-E 4D0, XP-G 4D0 and Nichia HiCRI?

 

[Lux-RC]

I double-checked the bins, according to the box stickers both XP-E and XP-G are 4D0.
I may presume that XP-E's spectrum shift is caused by the overdrive. 1.5 amps is far beyond its official limits.

 

[qwertyydude]

Wow the XT-E really does have a color shift across the beam. Makes my XM-L look downright normal.

And the 219 does look great with its neutral white. My 90 CRI warm XP-G just looks a bit too warm. Warmer even than my xenon incan module.

 

[mrradlos]

Lux-RC

Thank you very much for your excellent work - I think these fotos will help a lot of people make their decision. There are lot of nice LEDs to chose from XP-G and Nichia 219 - but the samsung is good too.

 

[Glenn7]

Do those Samsung 3535 Led's come in 5700 or 6000k?? because they look like a good balance between flood and throw (XP-E & XP-G)

 

[Glenn7]

Well I'm proud to say I killed another thread..... :0(

 

[Lux-RC]

Do those Samsung 3535 Led's come in 5700 or 6000k?? because they look like a good balance between flood and throw (XP-E & XP-G)

nope, Samsung offers only neutral and warm color 3535's.

Correct, they're not just more bright than CREE's R4 but due to smaller die size provide more throw.