New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

[brianna]

Surefire reminds me of Disney. At Disney they have people that work there called Imaginaires. They dream up the most imaginative stuff. Unfortunately only a very small percentage actually becomes reality. I refuse to even look at the video. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. I would like to see less imagination and more reality from Surefire.

 

[neutralwhite]

lol,...that's funny.
Surefire seems more like a film in those videos than selling anything...maybe that's what it is. lol.
you wait all that time, and nothing happens. waste of time. I best Avoid SF, as my money can't wait around that long!...lol.

thanks.

Surefire reminds me of Disney. At Disney they have people that work there called Imaginaires. They dream up the most imaginative stuff. Unfortunately only a very small percentage actually becomes reality. I refuse to even look at the video. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. I would like to see less imagination and more reality from Surefire.

 

[Melson]

They HAD to have read my post here:http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...New-Products&p=4020338&highlight=#post4020338

Because it looks like they listened to me when I said they needed to put a watch on the wristlight

 

[igabo]

Im wondering what that omni switch on the P2X weaponlight version is all about.

 

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

They HAD to have read my post here:http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...New-Products&p=4020338&highlight=#post4020338

Because it looks like they listened to me when I said they needed to put a watch on the wristlight

Somehow, I'm not rightly sure they got the idea from your CPF post last September since the SF wrist light already had a model with a watch at last year's SHOT show in January :thinking: :

http://miltechrev.com/2012/02/02/shot-show-2012-lighting-and-accessories/

Looks like the watch version has the HCP (high canon pinion) Harley Ronda 715 movement, hopefully the five jewel variant found in the more expensive Trasers like the P6506. Less expensive Trasers and most current Luminox 'Navy Seals' watches use the one jewel Ronda 715 movement from the few that I've looked inside. These watches need HCP movements due to the thickness of the hands with the tritium vials attached. I believe the watches on the SF wrist lights are manufactured in Switzerland by MB-Microtec AG, not sure if that still qualifies them for the 'Buy American Act' (41 U.S.C. § 10a–10d).

 

[tab665]

hopefully we will see a video from the surefire booth soon. where you at marshall!

 

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

hopefully we will see a video from the surefire booth soon. where you at marshall!

Stuart Yager of SF promised to respond to our questions here on CPF in last year's SHOT Shot thread:

That's me in the video. Many of you know me. I will take some time tomorrow to address your questions. Thanks for all the support!

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...New-Products&p=3856729&viewfull=1#post3856729

Somehow Stuart disappeared from CPF, never to return, after that post...

 

[nbp]

Stuart was here recently I believe to help out with some counterfeit SFs a member posted about.

 

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

Stuart was here recently I believe to help out with some counterfeit SFs a member posted about.

Are you perhaps thinking of Thomas from this post:

Hello Confederatescott,

My name is Thomas and I am the PR specialist for SureFire. I saw this post and wanted to know if you could contact me so we can look into the "phony" SureFire's. [email protected]

Kind Regards,
Thomas

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...nshow-UPDATE&p=4073097&viewfull=1#post4073097

Stuart's last post here was the one I quoted (unless he's got a new ID) according to his CPF profile page:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/member.php?281-Stuart-surefire

Hopefully it has nothing to do with this e-mail I received today from a SF dealer:

In the past few months, Surefire has informed us that they have reduced staff and decreased production, even though it has been an extremely heavy sales period. Due to the lack of inventory available at Surefire and extremely long lead times, ******* has chosen to discontinue stocking Surefire products at this time.

 

[nbp]

Yeah that's the one..remembered incorrectly.

 

[neutralwhite]

so the stuff already now on SF's site is still 2012?.
if I wanna buy, should I wait?..or is this already 2013 on here?.
just to confirm.

thanks.

 

[hookworm]

Has anyone seen the new 2013 catalogue? I don't think it's available for download just yet.

And, YES, I can't wait for the E2DL Defender Ultra to be available. My favourite SF light is the current E2DL, and not only because it tail-stands.

 

[brianna]

so the stuff already now on SF's site is still 2012?.
if I wanna buy, should I wait?..or is this already 2013 on here?.
just to confirm.

thanks.

Yes it still is 2012. The stuff you see in the 2013 catalog if it ever does come into existence expect that around maybe 2014 2015. In the past very few items featured in the catalogs ever come into existence. Don't set yourself up for disappointment. That is the reason I don't even watch the videos anymore. A few items will actually make it in the 2013 year. The 2013 catalog is not available yet

 

[neutralwhite]

thanks, from what i hear and read, your pretty so right there.
SF are time wasters then.
thanks.

Yes it still is 2012. The stuff you see in the 2013 catalog if it ever does come into existence expect that around maybe 2014 2015. In the past very few items featured in the catalogs ever come into existence. Don't set yourself up for disappointment. That is the reason I don't even watch the videos anymore. A few items will actually make it in the 2013 year. The 2013 catalog is not available yet

 

[brianna]

Don't be in such a hurry to dismiss them. They may take their sweet time to bring new items to market. But most of the time the products they do bring are very well made. When a new Surefire is available for purchase it always generates a lot of excitement around here for a reason. Quality reliability and durability are trademarks of Surefire. The other trademark is that it takes forever for them to introduce new products.

 

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

500/600lm screams 2-cell XM-L light to me. It expect they have a high likelihood of being XM-L2 emitters. The XM-L2 makes sense since they are a lot cheaper; if you're going to buy a bunch for some new lights it does not make much sense to buy the older more expensive emitters.

Aaron Zapata of SF in an online video says the new 500 lumen lights use Osram LED's and seems to say they will be out around March (I know, I know...):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ihbmxrfAG34

The video was posted earlier on this CPF thread:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...nnouncements&p=4116904&viewfull=1#post4116904

Looks like the watch version has the HCP (high canon pinion) Harley Ronda 715 movement, hopefully the five jewel variant found in the more expensive Trasers like the P6506. Less expensive Trasers and most current Luminox 'Navy Seals' watches use the one jewel Ronda 715 movement from the few that I've looked inside. These watches need HCP movements due to the thickness of the hands with the tritium vials attached. I believe the watches on the SF wrist lights are manufactured in Switzerland by MB-Microtec AG, not sure if that still qualifies them for the 'Buy American Act' (41 U.S.C. § 10a–10d).

This year's protoype of the SF 2211 with the watch has a Luminox (instead of Traser) brand in the video. Of horological interest to me is the stem and crown (the little knob you use to set the watch) at 9 o'clock rather than the more customary 3 o'clock. The watch looks very similar to a Luminox 3051 which has the less expensive one jewel Ronda movement.

Aaron shows a version of the Fury that takes an 18650 rechargeable [I now see that it's the P1R Peacekeeper mentioned earlier - Vox]. I just really hope it's not some proprietary battery package like the one on the R1 Lawman.

The current Fury works great on a 17670, just needs a 1 mm larger bore from what I see.

 

[Hitthespot]

Surefire reminds me of Disney. At Disney they have people that work there called Imaginaires. They dream up the most imaginative stuff. Unfortunately only a very small percentage actually becomes reality. I refuse to even look at the video. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. I would like to see less imagination and more reality from Surefire.

You guys always miss the fine print at the bottom of SureFires catalog and videos.

"Based on fictional equipment and Events. Any likenesses or similarities to actual equipment, characters, or events, is strickly coincidental. For entertainment purposes only"

 

[RNDDUDE]

Im wondering what that omni switch on the P2X weaponlight version is all about.

It activates momentary mode by pressing radially from any direction (laterally across the body) instead of the traditional axial activation (in line with the body) as in almost all push button tailcap buttons.

 

[leon2245]

Wish they'd have made that watch combo a digital instead. Wouldn't have been as serious/tactical looking, but imagine if they'd have paired up with casio- auto EL, so push-button backlight vs. glance at lume/trits wouldn't have been an issue. A G-shock surefire wrist light combo. Still a cool idea.

 

[Melson]

Somehow, I'm not rightly sure they got the idea from your CPF post last September since the SF wrist light already had a model with a watch at last year's SHOT show in January :thinking: :

http://miltechrev.com/2012/02/02/shot-show-2012-lighting-and-accessories/

Looks like the watch version has the HCP (high canon pinion) Harley Ronda 715 movement, hopefully the five jewel variant found in the more expensive Trasers like the P6506. Less expensive Trasers and most current Luminox 'Navy Seals' watches use the one jewel Ronda 715 movement from the few that I've looked inside. These watches need HCP movements due to the thickness of the hands with the tritium vials attached. I believe the watches on the SF wrist lights are manufactured in Switzerland by MB-Microtec AG, not sure if that still qualifies them for the 'Buy American Act' (41 U.S.C. § 10a–10d).

*sigh* Sarcasm is so hard to convey on forums