The SureFire P2X-B "Fury" 500lu flashlight thread

[NightKids]

Re: Surefire Fury

Wow no way!! What a bargain!! Wonder what LED it uses! From a measly 15 lumens to bang!! 500 Surefire lumens!

That will sure wake u up at night!!

 

[Guybling]

Re: Surefire Fury

Well how about that! Now how do I rationalize another Surefire purchase to my Wife?

 

[purelite]

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Thats funny, the sales guys stop talking and move away. Like its secret squirrel espionage stuff.

I have to say its great that Surefire is definitley listening and watching the industry . This shows they want to have some cutting edge lights in the output department and stay current. But that is one ugly light. I really dont like the direction SF is going with the physical appearance of their civilian lights. They re definitley going for the toned down non threatening streamlined look. Just not my taste

and did you notice, a POLYcarbonate window!??? Plastic?????? On a Surefire?

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Re: Surefire Fury

It's out: http://www.batteryjunction.com/sf-p2x-b-bk.html

:thumbsup:

Good heavens! It's true! Sorry to have doubted you Guybling! Nice find NoFair. Must have just been put up on their site. I was looking at SureFire stuff there last week and didn't see it. Looks like it will be a thrower, I'm pre-ordering!

 

[mmace1]

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and did you notice, a POLYcarbonate window!??? Plastic?????? On a Surefire?

:duh2:

I can now confirm how much of a flashlight dork I am, I really did tilt my head a bit & think "wtf...". Good catch.

The whole point (IMO) of Surefire that was aside from slow production cycles in recent years (which is a biggie - also in IMO), that said still...no corners were cut. I hope the premium-reliability construction is still there...?

 

[Meganoggin]

Re: Surefire Fury

Interesting that Surefire managed to keep this one pretty quiet. I'm looking forward to reviews....

 

[FPSRelic]

Re: Surefire Fury

Thats funny, the sales guys stop talking and move away. Like its secret squirrel espionage stuff.

I have to say its great that Surefire is definitley listening and watching the industry . This shows they want to have some cutting edge lights in the output department and stay current. But that is one ugly light. I really dont like the direction SF is going with the physical appearance of their civilian lights. They re definitley going for the toned down non threatening streamlined look. Just not my taste

and did you notice, a POLYcarbonate window!??? Plastic?????? On a Surefire?

My understanding is that the g2x/6px series lights all use polycarbonate lenses.

I remember watching a youtube video of Surefire at a show introducing the new g2x/6px range of lights. He said that they were a result of Surefire listening to it's customers, who were after better priced light with Surefire's reliability. I guess the tradeoff for getting the prices down is to use cheaper materials.

 

[mmace1]

Re: Surefire Fury

I guess the tradeoff for getting the prices down is to use cheaper materials.

Yeah...the bulk price for cut glass in 1.3" diameter circles is through the roof! It's like gold Jerry, gold! $100 right there!

Really though...that seems awfully forgiving. There are well under $50 lights with glass lenses. Are they the same as Surefires - no. But do they make one legitimately question the move to save (in bulk...$2/order $10 max? ) in a $150+ light...I just really can't imagine the savings being that big compared to the overall price. Seems like a cheap move to save a bit & capitalize on either ignorance or excessive brand equity...

I don't know but - this is kinda freaking me out. Surefire has gotten behind on emitters compared to 5 years ago but...to get behind on quality for a component? That's kinda weird sounding.

 

[2000xlt]

Re: Surefire Fury

now if that had the optics of E1B or E2dL for example i'd be on that like flies on you know what

 

[angelofwar]

Re: Surefire Fury

Get one before the price goes up, ala KX4's, G2X, 6PX...

Wonder when we'll see one with a combat grip? Looks like the Stratum, part deuce...

 

[Helmut.G]

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Funny, after I read the first few posts I thought "500 lumens from surefire for less than 200$, I bet if that's true they simply put an XM-L into a 6PX".
Looks like I was right.

If these actually ship in the near future and live up to the claims, surefire will finally offer a light in roughly the same lumens/dollar range as many other brands.
Interesting development for sure!

 

[Tana]

Re: Surefire Fury

I wasn't that much impressed with X series (heard too many issues with them to bite the bullet and buy one)... but THIS I'm getting...

 

[pjandyho]

Re: Surefire Fury

Interesting that Surefire managed to keep this one pretty quiet. I'm looking forward to reviews....

From what I see, they did not really keep this quiet because it wasn't in their original product design plans. It seems to me that they are merely putting this out in a hurry by exploiting the success of the 6PX Pro and re-engineering the head a little to fit an XM-L in there. How else could they achieve 500 lumens without overdriving the LED if it is not XM-L they are using? It seems more like it was put together based on some slight amendments in the blueprint of the 6PX Pro. I hope I am wrong though, but I think Surefire is under a lot of pressure from competing manufacturers putting out lights in the hundreds of lumen range. It's a do or die situation they are in.

 

[WDR65]

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All I can say is "wow!" I guess I expected something like this, but not in this model and style. I expected something a bit more like the L5 or L6. Very interesting.

 

[kelmo]

Re: Surefire Fury

WOW!

This kind of makes you forget about the M6!

 

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

Re: Surefire Fury

Will it be part of the low end line like the 6PX/G2X?

Looks like my question is answered in the Battery Junction listing:

SureFire's Fury is a more powerful, slightly larger version of our best-selling dual-output 6PX Pro.

And:

Pre-order today! Expected mid-late December!

Will SF deliver on time for a change? Or, is this yet another clever ruse to spur market demand?:huh:

Will the quoted price be 'introductory' as with the 6PX/G2X?

AOW has the same suspicion:

Get one before the price goes up, ala KX4's, G2X, 6PX...

I hope I am wrong though, but I think Surefire is under a lot of pressure from competing manufacturers putting out lights in the hundreds of lumen range. It's a do or die situation they are in.

It's considered heresy in some quarters but I've made similar observations that SF is trying to reinvent the product line to respond to fast moving LED technology, rising costs of onshore production and cutbacks in government spending.

Anyway, I've locked my wallet in a drawer upstairs and hidden my PayPal six digit token.

 

[Helmut.G]

Re: Surefire Fury

WOW!

This kind of makes you forget about the M6!

Not me, I'm still dreaming of owning a M6. It's a classic and it's super-cool. The Fury is just another 2xCR123 Tactical light.

 

[Imon]

Re: Surefire Fury

It's out: http://www.batteryjunction.com/sf-p2x-b-bk.html

:thumbsup:

Interesting. As Helmut mentioned it does look like a 6PX with a larger head with probably an XM-L stuck inside.
I think this is a positive development, SF has stuck the XR-E behind a TIR lens on so many of their models but somehow I have doubts this flashlight uses TIR.

Which could be good or bad. I know TIR is pretty polarizing on CPF.

 

[Helmut.G]

Re: Surefire Fury

Interesting. As Helmut mentioned it does look like a 6PX with a larger head with probably an XM-L stuck inside.
I think this is a positive development, SF has stuck the XR-E behind a TIR lens on so many of their model but somehow I have doubts this flashlight uses TIR.

Which could be good or bad. I know TIR is pretty polarizing on CPF.

The description says it is a reflector.

 

[Imon]

Re: Surefire Fury

The description says it is a reflector.

I know, I was hoping against hope. Personally I like the TIR lens and SF was able to create a jumbo-sized one for the M3LT so...

Maybe some other time.