grocery cost thread its crazy!

[ampdude]

Bought a thick cut ribeye last night for $11 something since it was in the specials section and on it's last day for sale. The original price was $24. I made it last night, but if I hadn't I would have tossed it in the freezer right away. That's the kind of ways I try to save money on groceries. They had two, I actually should have bought the other as well and froze it.

 

[raggie33]

God I love prime rib. I many days wake up early to check out the clearance meats last month or so ago found fillet mignon for like 5 bucks lol. I think it was the first time I had it was good but to lean

 

[ampdude]

God I love prime rib. I many days wake up early to check out the clearance meats last month or so ago found fillet mignon for like 5 bucks lol. I think it was the first time I had it was good but to lean

Strange, filet mignon is usually very tender and somewhat fatty. It's the most tender steak.

 

[IMA SOL MAN]

A few months ago, and it may still be going on, there was a rash of cattle rustling going on here in Kansas. Rancher goes out to check on cattle, feed them or round them up to take to market, whatever, and his herd is short several head. The big city folk aren't the only ones getting ripped-off these days. Rustling drives up the cost of meat.

 

[MyUsernameTX]

I love milk never had it from a dairy .

We got some raw milk from a local farm. Fresh out the cow

Honestly? In a blind test, I couldn't tell the difference between that, and regular whole milk from the store. Same thing with the fresh eggs they sold.

A lot of people claim farm fresh milk and eggs are so much better, but I've never seen it. I think its all in the mind. I do like supporting small farms though so I'm all for it

 

[ampdude]

A few months ago, and it may still be going on, there was a rash of cattle rustling going on here in Kansas. Rancher goes out to check on cattle, feed them or round them up to take to market, whatever, and his herd is short several head. The big city folk aren't the only ones getting ripped-off these days. Rustling drives up the cost of meat.

This happened in South Dakota a short while ago. Over 100 cattle. I don't know how they pulled it off, and I think they still have not caught them. Maybe they never will. Upper Midwest is unbelievably corrupt and law enforcement is as bad as the criminals.

 

[ampdude]

We got some raw milk from a local farm. Fresh out the cow

Honestly? In a blind test, I couldn't tell the difference between that, and regular whole milk from the store. Same thing with the fresh eggs they sold.

A lot of people claim farm fresh milk and eggs are so much better, but I've never seen it. I think its all in the mind. I do like supporting small farms though so I'm all for it

I'll take my almond milk. I'm MILDLY lactose intolerant and almond milk lasts many months in the fridge, even after opening. Some cow milk lasts like only 8 days or less after you open it before it starts to go sour. And I don't like the taste very much anyways. Unless it's chocolate milk.

 

[andregrobler]

South africa Gauteng rural all converted from metric and ZAR…

Milk -2.22usd bring own container. When our cow comes into milk her feed will come to about half that. Shop milk is 1.3x that price. And completely rubbish for the most part… unless you pay 2x but the best milk come from our mostly pastured jerseys… i know cause my wife and kids will easily drink a gallon a day… not so much when it is commercial dairy milk…

Mince -3,21

White bread… no idea…

For all you who think more plant based is healthier… just swop to pastured meat… phyto-oestrogens… no thank you…

Small farm food is only better quality if pastured and low/no chemical reliant…

 

[bykfixer]

Welcome aboard andre. Thanks for your perspective on this subject.

 

[Poppy]

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Donald Trump

At the end of fiscal year 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt between fiscal year 2017 and fiscal year 2020, a 33.1% increase, largely due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic and 2020 recession.


In his FY 2021 budget, Trump's budget included a $966 billion deficit.14 However, the national debt actually grew by $1.5 trillion between October 1, 2020, and October 1, 2021.

• FY 2021: $1.5 trillion
• FY 2020: $4.2 trillion
• FY 2019: $1.2 trillion
• FY 2018: $1.3 trillion

Joe Biden

Added $3.00 trillion in the three years he has been in office.

 

[Lips]

Joe Biden

Added $3.00 trillion in the three years he has been in office.

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I don't believe 3 Trillion for Biden is correct and has a year to go... None of them good!



Biden's #'s

Today 1/6/2024

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[AstroTurf]

Donald Trump

At the end of fiscal year 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt between fiscal year 2017 and fiscal year 2020, a 33.1% increase, largely due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic and 2020 recession.


In his FY 2021 budget, Trump's budget included a $966 billion deficit.14 However, the national debt actually grew by $1.5 trillion between October 1, 2020, and October 1, 2021.

• FY 2021: $1.5 trillion
• FY 2020: $4.2 trillion
• FY 2019: $1.2 trillion
• FY 2018: $1.3 trillion

Joe Biden

Added $3.00 trillion in the three years he has been in office.

not sure what politics has to do with the cost of a loaf of bread...

hope that works out for you.

 

[jtr1962]

I don't believe 3 Trillion for Biden is correct and has a year to go... None of them good!

US Budget Deficit by Year Compared to GDP, Debt, and Events

The federal budget deficit rises when government spending is high, such as during wars or recessions. Budget deficits cause the national debt to grow.

www.thebalancemoney.com

Why the Deficit Is Less Than the Increase in the Debt

There's an important difference between the deficit and debt. The deficit has been less than the increase in debt for years because Congress borrows from the Social Security Trust Fund surplus. The surplus emerged back in the 1980s when there were more people working than there were retirees. As such, payroll tax contributions were greater than Social Security spending, allowing the fund to invest the extra revenue in special Treasury bonds. Congress spent some of the surplus so it wouldn't have to issue as many new Treasury bonds.

Note that this accounting applies to all administrations. Trump's numbers would be similarly larger than the official deficits under his administration if you simply look at only the difference between spending and tax revenue. Without the tax breaks given to the wealthy and corporations under Trump, doubtless Biden's budget deficits would be smaller. In fact, we can attribute as much as $5.6 trillion of the national debt to tax breaks for the wealthy starting with Bush II. The numbers would likely exceed $10 trillion if you include the tax breaks since Reagan.

Record debt and inequality gap? It's almost like 40 years of Republican tax cuts failed.

Trickle-down failure: The cult-like Republican belief in tax cuts isn’t supported by results. It's leading to an apocalypse of debt and inequality.

www.usatoday.com

You know what type of tax cut would have an immediate trickle-down effect? One for the poor and middle classes only. That would help those struggling now with higher food prices for starters. Increase the standard deduction to at least $30K so people making subsistence wages don't pay any income tax. Exempt the first $15K or $20K in wages or self-employment income from FICA taxes. That's a 15.3% hit which those making very little can't afford. All the money saved in taxes would almost immediately be pumped back into the economy as spending.

Pay for the above by taxing capital gains and dividends in excess of $100K as ordinary income, and getting rid of the cap for wages subject to FICA tax (currently at $168,600 for 2024). Also revert the top tax rates back to at least 50%, as they were under Reagan.

 

[Kestrel]

Well, this is another thread to ignore now.

 

[raggie33]

Going to try raos pasta sauce was going today but I'm tired

 

[IMA SOL MAN]

not sure what politics has to do with the cost of a loaf of bread...

hope that works out for you.

I'll be happy to explain.

When Biden took office, he immediately declared war on petroleum, natural gas and coal, the things that run our nation (ENERGY). He began by halting a pipeline, a pipeline that would have efficiently and with less pollution than current trucking and rail transportation, move oil to refineries. Biden then let it be known to the oil, coal and gas companies that they were endangered industries, and he was going to do everything he could to shut them down. This caused those industries to cut investments. The market answered by the price of oil going up. Since everything runs on, or is dependent on the price of energy, all prices of everything increased. Diesel to farmers increased, diesel to truckers increased, and fertilizer prices for farmers skyrocketed. Higher costs of production and transportation caused increased prices to the supermarket. This was the increase on the supply side.

Now on the demand side. Biden threw the border open to the world. He stopped the building of the Southern Border Wall, and called for The World, to rush the border. Beginning then (Trump had the border nearly under control) we have seen a massive invasion of people from all over the world, enter our nation. They did not bring their food with them. Where will they get their food? The same place that you and I get our food. Millions of new "eaters" have invaded our nation, at the expense of our tax dollars, and are competing with the citizens for resources. This is the increase on the demand side.

Farmers did not anticipate this increased demand for food, and did not take the increased demand into account in their planting/ranching operation planning. How many extra Acres of crops should they plant for this demand? How many more head of livestock should they buy to graze? How are they going to afford the extra fertilizer/diesel/pesticides/herbicides/machinery/labor/seed/livestock/feed etc, to meet the need? Farmers and stockmen will do all that they can to meet the need, but with greater demand for housing, and cities expanding into farmland, there is less and less farmland available, and what is left becomes more and more expensive to buy, as demand goes up and supply goes down. On top of all the other problems, the farmers and ranchers have the red tape of bureaucracy to fight. Right now, here in Kansas, the Greenies in government are trying to get a prairie chicken declared endangered which will take a lot of land out of farm production. There are many Kansans fighting the Biden administration on this, but it is a tough battle. This is just one of many battles that farmers and ranchers have with the federal government agencies.

I could go on and on about how politics affect the price of food, but that is not my area of expertise, I'm just a lay person. I haven't even mentioned the flood of tax money that was sent out to consumers during the Pandemic, and the shut down of industries and retailers. Hopefully by now, you get the idea that politics has everything to do with the price of a loaf of bread.

 

[Chauncey Gardiner]

@IMA SOL MAN, Well stated, sir! 👍👍

 

[IMA SOL MAN]

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@IMA SOL MAN, Well stated, sir! 👍👍

Thank you, thank you very much.

 

[raggie33]

The raos wasn't that great for 7 bucks a jar it should have been better but I do admit I had no idea which one to buy lol . They use odd terms. I like when it just says sausage spaghetti sauce . Instead of what I assume to be Italian terms . I'll stick with Mids or Walmart stuff btw I think it was last year the Walmart stuff was like 90 cents per jar lol now it's like 190 lol

 

[bykfixer]

Bread? Have you guys priced allergy medicine lately? Holy mackeral!!