CR2 Lights

My avatar is .670"/17mm dia x 1.990/50.55mm long. (Off.) I recently upgraded it to a P4 and cut-down McR 20S. It's 2-stage with 5 trits shining in the bezel/body gap. (They have me so pissed-off at work, I just might have to retire and make some more. )

Larry

I was looking for a pocket light and ended up going with this one from DX:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1087

It uses a ho-hum LED but it's cheap and convertible. It's 6cm with a CR2, what other CR2 lights are out there that are smaller but don't cost an arm and a leg?

ltiu said:

Is there a US online store for this in U$?

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If you use the Lummi site, add items to your basket and then go to your basket. Beside the final price are three icons to show the price in either Yen, Euros or US Dollars.

The website is due an overhaul soon, Rob (Orb) is just in the process of compiling a list of things to fix. To asnwer the question asked about output of the Orb Raw (£40).

On a RCR2 Li ion cell (3.7 volts) you get 160 lumens HIGH, 15 lumens LOW

On a CR2 Li cell (3.0 volts) you get 40 lumens HIGH, 10 lumens LOW

The values in the pull-down list are not based on the Q4/Q5 emitters, so they are not accurate. Just select which one you would like based on the relative difference you would like between low and high.

ltiu said:

Something wrong. On this one webpage, I see 3 different tech specs with regards to the lumen rating.

On the left middle part of the page, the picture has some text beside it and it says:

"160 lumens HIGH with 25 min. runtime & ... "

On the right side near the top, there is text that says:

" ... but blazes out 40 lumens of brilliant white light on HIGH (8 hours ... "

Then on the right side, near the bottom where you would purchase the light, there is a drop down box and right above it says:

Select a configuration option for the high-low switch:

In the dropdown box, the options are "120 lumens HIGH ...".

So I am getting 3 different lumen rating all in one webpage that is trying to sell me a light!

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Rob's products are fantastic in quality and performance. His website could stand to be updated a bit more often, but if you have any questions, he's quite quick to answer e-mails.

To address your points above:

The current LED he's using is capable of putting out 160 lumens for about 20-25 minutes with a 3.7v Li ion rcr2.

THE EXACT SAME LIGHT using a standard 3v cr2 camera battery will put out 40 lumens for 7-8 hours.

There "dropdown" box for configuration is out of date, as the current high output is now 160 vs 120 lumens.

My recommendation: buy the rechargeable version for [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]£40 and if you ever need to you can always use a primary cr2 as a long life (although lower output) backup.

From the photo below, it should be obvious that I have a liking for Orbs!

Tim



EDIT: Should have paid more attention to Mikes post above. I didn't notice that he'd already explained the differnce in performance.

OH Well, It still gives me another "excuse" to show off the "kids".
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I use the pocket bodies on my Pacifics. I just drop the light in the coin pocket of jeans... The light is 6 cm long. If wearing work pants, I have the light in an AW leather holster.
The light is nice in brass!

ltiu said:

Is there a US online store for this in U$?

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Lighthound sells them, but they show them out of stock at the moment.

http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1154

JimmyM said:

Oof. $170. A bit too steep for me. I've been looking for a little CR2 twistie too. Can anyone shed light in a cheaper model that's currently available?
Thanks.

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What's the difference between £40 and £33 CR2 version? Is itone has charger/battery the other doesn't, but lumen output are same? Also, how many trit markers are on it, and does both include lanyard?

jzmtl said:

What's the difference between £40 and £33 CR2 version? Is it one has charger/battery the other doesn't, but lumen output are same?

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Partially correct. See posts #23 and 24 above.

jzmtl said:

Also, how many trit markers are on it, and does both include lanyard?

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# of Trit's depends on how many you order (£6 each), and yes to the lanyard.

Tim

tvodrd said:

My avatar is .670"/17mm dia x 1.990/50.55mm long. (Off.) I recently upgraded it to a P4 and cut-down McR 20S. It's 2-stage with 5 trits shining in the bezel/body gap. (They have me so pissed-off at work, I just might have to retire and make some more. )

Larry

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I wish you would.

For those of you who don't know, CR2 "Larry-lights" were the holy grail in the
good old days.

This original design is so nice that you might recognize an uncanny similarity
in lights that have been produced by others more recently.

I presume they are still the holy grail! Can we convince Larry to start making them again with SSC U-bin or higher? Keep little bit room for the converter then people can select their own if they want single stage or multistage.

We will have another "Malkoff-Phenomenon" here

- Vikas

Vikas Sontakke said:

I presume they are still the holy grail! Can we convince Larry to start making them again with SSC U-bin or higher? Keep little bit room for the converter then people can select their own if they want single stage or multistage.

We will have another "Malkoff-Phenomenon" here

- Vikas

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Yes indeed.

The only reason why I used the past tense is because they haven't been
obtainable for quite a long time to my knowledge.

I also hope we can convince Larry to make them again with current
led technology. :thumbsup:

Tim W said:

Partially correct. See posts #23 and 24 above.

# of Trit's depends on how many you order (£6 each), and yes to the lanyard.

Tim

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Oh sorry I wasn't clear in my post, I meant when both are using primary cells, do they have the same output? And is it the first one capable of using both primary and rechargeable, while the second one only capable of primary?

The thing here is that a custom (expensive) light is not what this man needs.
CR2 (commercial) lights just need to be searched for.

In the first post there is a titan mentioned for $299.00 Where?
The ORB is a great little light.
their Ki's are amazing.

The thing is if you want a custom cr2 light you are going to have top be ready to PAY.

There are several lights like the ARC LS which have aftermarket cr2 battery holders.
There are lots of options. the cheap way to go may not always be best.
Yaesumofo

The peaks pacific cr2's pocket bodies are nice and tiny - I gave them to my wife and daughter last Christmas.

jzmtl said:

Oh sorry I wasn't clear in my post, I meant when both are using primary cells, do they have the same output? And is it the first one capable of using both primary and rechargeable, while the second one only capable of primary?

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As stated in post #24: They are the EXACT same light. The performance differences come from whether you're feeding the LED 3.7 volts or 3 volts.

If you use a 3.7v rechargeable battery you'll get 160 on high for about 25 minutes
If you use a 3.0v primary battery you'll get 40 on high for about 8 hours.

HOWEVER, given that around here a store bought cr2 is about $4.50 -$6.00 I'd go the rechargeable route. You can always keep a spare primary around for emergency use as they have about a 10 year shelf life.

Sorry, don't know how to make it any more clear.

Tim

I received a CR2 Peak Pacific yesterday great little light, when I talked to Peak they recommended ordering a HP version for a good balance of brightness and run time. It easily sits vertical in the coin pocket of my jeans.

How much do they cost? What is the Lumen output? Peak seems to tive Lux ratings only.

- Vikas

Tim W said:

As stated in post #24: They are the EXACT same light. The performance differences come from whether you're feeding the LED 3.7 volts or 3 volts.

If you use a 3.7v rechargeable battery you'll get 160 on high for about 25 minutes
If you use a 3.0v primary battery you'll get 40 on high for about 8 hours.

HOWEVER, given that around here a store bought cr2 is about $4.50 -$6.00 I'd go the rechargeable route. You can always keep a spare primary around for emergency use as they have about a 10 year shelf life.

Sorry, don't know how to make it any more clear.

Tim

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Hmm, The way I read post 24 is that when RECHARGEABLE version use primary it will put out 40 lumen, but nothing about if it's same as the CR2 version, which is listed as a seperate item on orb's website.

My local dollar store carry CR2 for $1 each, so I don't mind the price, one less rechargeable battery to manage.

jzmtl said:

My local dollar store carry CR2 for $1 each, so I don't mind the price, one less rechargeable battery to manage.

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The normal price for a good brand CR2 in Australia is about A$14. :sick2:
Norm