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I'm working on it now. Hopefully they will be finished by the end of next week. It will not be the FTP but a higher powered variant.

NOT THE FTP BUT A HIGHER POWERED VARIANT??? ARE YOU KIDDING??? You said there will not be any more of those in the near future! :mecry: I wish I have waited! :sigh: :ohgeez:Must resist ... resist ... resist ... resist ... resist ... :broke: Why do you have to do this to me??? Why??? :twak:
 

saabluster

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Michael, Can you elaborate on the variation at all?



NOT THE FTP BUT A HIGHER POWERED VARIANT??? ARE YOU KIDDING??? You said there will not be any more of those in the near future! :mecry: I wish I have waited! :sigh: :ohgeez:Must resist ... resist ... resist ... resist ... resist ... :broke: Why do you have to do this to me??? Why??? :twak:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are killing my beer money. Please stop now...................

All DEFT-HO information now posted in this thread.
 

LuxLuthor

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I'm thrilled to see these are still selling like hotcakes. The DEFT is that impressive. As I told Michael before, I am basically an "Incan Jockey," but I have used one of the three DEFT's I have as my daily dog-walking light for at least a year now.

Being able to see skunks, hooligans, and coyotees from a good distance, and using the sharp DEFT LED edge to avoid home windows and oncoming cars has won me over to the LED Dark Side....at least for this one application outside. LOL !

Generally, I am against LED's because they are more efficient, and I love to be inefficient and waste energy.

The three DEFT's have held up through all 4 seasons, without a problem...although I did put some rubber insulation on their handles for the cold and better grip.

I used the Pachmayr Pac-Skin 5x20 size on one, and the Stiletto 8" AirGrip (cut in middle before application) on the other two. Also switched to a sturdier wrist strap than I had on original models--found some Sony Camcorder straps on FleaBay that are very strong.

All in all, I love to keep promoting the DEFT. It is what I call a "Pocket MaxaBeam."
 

Robo-Man

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Yesterday i had some time and took some measurements with my DEFT.
I used 4 eneloops with 1,4V each to power my FTP.
The setup was quite simple. I placed a cheap lux meter ~3m away from my DEFT.
After that i read the time and the lux and put it into a diagram:


this light is realy impressive. its just stunning when you turn it on and you feel the power this litle beast has. its realy like having a lightsaber in your hand.
As you can see after 70minutes the LUX dropts very fast. here are some values because yo can see them quite badly on the picture:

t in min | U in V | Lux
110 2,69 470
120 2,66 350
130 2,65 290
140 2,64 240
150 2,63 210
180 2,61 142
210 2,6 112
350 2,56 53
390 2,55 43

i did a first testing but then something went wrong. so i stoped after 2 hours, took the light and went out with my dog.
and the amount of light that still came out of the DEFT is the thing that impressed me most.
it still threw like mad and i was able to light up things at the end of the "park"(google says 200-300m).
even after 3h and only 2% of the initial value there is still some power left.
you have quite a tunnel vision but its still enough to light things up 100m away.
of course the light at this distance is very very low. but it's ok and enough to find your way home or to the toilet ^^
sadly i failed making some pictures beacause the cam i had is realy realy bad. i'll try to hand them in later. maybe next weekend.

during the test i never turned the light of and after halft an hour the case of the light had around 42°C.

today my ordered ultimate lithium arrived and i will also try to repeate the procedure next week ;)
 

007adan

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How important is the pre-collimator? How much of a difference is there with or without a pre-collimator? What does a pre-collimator consist of?
Some schooling on this would be much appreciated..
 

saabluster

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Yesterday i had some time and took some measurements with my DEFT.
I used 4 eneloops with 1,4V each to power my FTP.
The setup was quite simple. I placed a cheap lux meter ~3m away from my DEFT.
After that i read the time and the lux and put it into a diagram:


this light is realy impressive. its just stunning when you turn it on and you feel the power this litle beast has. its realy like having a lightsaber in your hand.
As you can see after 70minutes the LUX dropts very fast. here are some values because yo can see them quite badly on the picture:

t in min | U in V | Lux
110 2,69 470
120 2,66 350
130 2,65 290
140 2,64 240
150 2,63 210
180 2,61 142
210 2,6 112
350 2,56 53
390 2,55 43

i did a first testing but then something went wrong. so i stoped after 2 hours, took the light and went out with my dog.
and the amount of light that still came out of the DEFT is the thing that impressed me most.
it still threw like mad and i was able to light up things at the end of the "park"(google says 200-300m).
even after 3h and only 2% of the initial value there is still some power left.
you have quite a tunnel vision but its still enough to light things up 100m away.
of course the light at this distance is very very low. but it's ok and enough to find your way home or to the toilet ^^
sadly i failed making some pictures beacause the cam i had is realy realy bad. i'll try to hand them in later. maybe next weekend.

during the test i never turned the light of and after halft an hour the case of the light had around 42°C.

today my ordered ultimate lithium arrived and i will also try to repeate the procedure next week ;)
Thank you so much for the runtime diagram. I have been meaning to do one myself but I am extremely busy with flashlight related things and responsibilities outside of the flashaholic world.

How important is the pre-collimator? How much of a difference is there with or without a pre-collimator? What does a pre-collimator consist of?
Some schooling on this would be much appreciated..
The pre-collimator is very important. It makes the beam size larger for more field of view, increases throughput by about 60%(if I remember correctly), it reduces aberration, and it increases throw slightly. The pre-collimator is just a carefully picked PCX lens that fits just over the LED.
 

007adan

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Saabluster,

Without giving away any trade secrets, is there a suitable pre-collimator PCX lens that you can recommend?
 

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I wish I looked in to these things sooner! The FTP is at the top end of what I'd want to spend but it would be giving me a good tool. The upgradability with the MCPCB is a nice feature although the HO sounds pretty great too.
 

ajimenez

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good morning everyone , i just joined this forum and this is my first exchange . lately i have purchased quite a few flaslights ( the torch , stinger ds , olight 91 , and some smaller ones ) , but i came accross the name DEFT FTP and have tried without success to find out where to buy one ? i tried the omg website and got no response . can anyone help me ?? lastly , is there anything new in the market for long throw that beats the olight or deft ???? thanks.
 

saabluster

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good morning everyone , i just joined this forum and this is my first exchange . lately i have purchased quite a few flaslights ( the torch , stinger ds , olight 91 , and some smaller ones ) , but i came accross the name DEFT FTP and have tried without success to find out where to buy one ? i tried the omg website and got no response . can anyone help me ?? lastly , is there anything new in the market for long throw that beats the olight or deft ???? thanks.

The DEFT is no longer being offered for sale. I am a bit behind on emails at the moment so sorry I haven't responded to your inquiry. I have been getting more email than I can handle lately. The DEFT will return sometime in the future but I really can't tell you when because I don't know. :welcome:
 

Hmmm

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I was wondering if you could pm me or tell me where you got the lens for the DEFT? I'm a budding flasholic, just turned 16 and can't afford a true deft.
 

saabluster

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I'm trying to find a 80mm lense, same size as the deft to fit this light: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-3-4-quarter-inch-109-led-flashlight-98506.html. It looks just like the deft too.


Edit
Oops, I didn't read the thread, I thought it was the "how to out throw a xpe with a xpg. I assumed without reading. Anywere to get that lense online? Is that possibly in a 1997 forester?

Search for a 75mm lens and you should find what you need. The light in your link was the light used as a host for the original DEFT. It will require you do a fair amount of modification to work so you need to make sure you have access to some metal fab equipment before you sink any money into it.
 

Colonel Sanders

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I bet you have been getting alot of email from folks wanting the diffuser for their DEFT-EDCs....I was one of them a few weeks back. :)
 
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