Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2021

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Eneloopy by Ensora Works

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Everytime I walked into my local Ario shopping center, I felt like they were using eneloopy as their mascot. Ever been to an Ario shopping mall in Japan?

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should i use alkaline batteries on a remote control?

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Recently I picked up some 4th gen AA 2000mAh eneloops from a local retailer, the code is BK-3MCCE. Reading some informations in the first page, I doubt mine are original. But I am not able to find any information that can ensure the eneloops that I bought are either fake or genuine. Can someone help me to verify whether mine are fake or genuine? Below are some photos of it. Thanks.







Ridge near the positive terminal


Date stamp code 1411, near positive terminal, very thin.

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I havent seen much of the Chinese eneloops myself, so can`t really say anything.

All I know is related to Japanese eneloops.
If people post some of their Chinese eneloops, you would be able to compare them.

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Are the Eneloops sold by Amazon US generation 4, and are they made in Japan. Anyone purchased any recently?

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markr6 said:

They range from 2006 - 2014. It's not just the old ones. I know my cable box remove chews them up since it's nearly impossible to remove them. But even some of my newer cells in my Canon camera flash and EA4 were cut, torn, etc. It just seems like a weak point since the wrapper only comes around the edge slightly.

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MidnightDistortions said:

Oh okay, yeah having a tight battery holder would cause that sort of thing. Usually in that case i either use a quarter or a flat scewdriver or whatever i can do to pry them out but almost all the time the positive terminal gets wear and tear. I just know that over time repeat heat and cooling of the battery would cause the ends of the terminals to become brittle and wear out.

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Wrap a small strip of paper or cloth around each battery before inserting it. Then, when you need to remove a battery, you can use the strip as a pull.

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Techno said:

I think it's an eBay seller, shipping from indonesia

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Correct.

Don't tell me they're fakes.

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KeepingItLight said:

Wrap a small strip of paper or cloth around each battery before inserting it. Then, when you need to remove a battery, you can use the strip as a pull.

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Yeah that's actually the best idea

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Regarding the Chinese eneloops a few posts back, they're likely to be real. There are 4 visible V shaped vents on the positive tip. I posted a hi res image of China Hello Kitty eneloops on pg12.

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I have a quick question I think ...........I cant read through all this stuff ......lol
I recently bought a SF Titan plus and it takes AAA batts .......I bought Eneloop pros for use in it (rechargable) and want to know if my Pila charger will recharge these batts ??
If not ........what is a GOOD charger to buy and use for eneloop pros , AAAbatts. ??
Thank you for your time here..........dj

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Pila is for Li Ion cells only. Not for NIMH. I use a LaCrosse smart charger for my NIMH cells and have had good luck with it.
Do a search for fellow member HKJ. Read up on his reviews on chargers. You should find what your looking for there.

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Thank you ...........you saved me from making a mistake.
Your recommendations on the Lacrosse charger are good enough for me .......... until someone post something to the contrary.

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I prefer the Maha Powerex C9000 for Eneloops. You can let the cells sit on the charger longer without worrying about over charge and shows the internal resistance/ health of the cells. The Lacrosse chargers are not bad but they can do more overcharge on the trickle charge mode on LSD cells.

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Hi, first post (after introduction)

Not sure if the first post is still being updated, but i recently bought new eneloops: BK-4MCCE
These are 5th gen Eneloops.
Cycles: 2100
Min: 750 mAh
70% after 5 years

This doesn't match the table in the first post.
I think these are european, bought them in NL

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The new Eneloop Tones are available on eBay. Around us30 per set of 8 pcs.

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rinkel said:

Hi, first post (after introduction)

Not sure if the first post is still being updated, but i recently bought new eneloops: BK-4MCCE
These are 5th gen Eneloops.
Cycles: 2100
Min: 750 mAh
70% after 5 years

This doesn't match the table in the first post.
I think these are european, bought them in NL

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Thanks Rinkel,
If you take a closer look into the first few posts, youll see they are up to date.
The ones you bought are 4th generation (so to call), and not 5th.
Have another look at the first few posts.

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ChibiM said:

Thanks Rinkel,
If you take a closer look into the first few posts, youll see they are up to date.
The ones you bought are 4th generation (so to call), and not 5th.
Have another look at the first few posts.

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Aw shoot..
You're right, sorry about the confusion...
Now i need to get my hands on the 5th exports.. 10 years 70% just sounds cool.
Can you imagine having Alkaleaks in a device for 10 years

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General Eneloop question:

The blister package claims "After 5 years capacity remains 70%" for my Panasonic Eneloop Tropical AA min 1900mAh. So what does this really mean, answer A or B?

Answer A:
When the battery is new and fully charged, you'll get min 1900mAh out of it (in a standard discharge). When the battery is new and fully charged and you store it untouched unused for 5 years at normal conditions AND THEN do a standard discharge starting with that untouched 30% self-discharged state you'll get ~1330mAh (=0.70*1900) out of it because 570mAh have self-discharged during the 5 years. AND FINALLY, when you recondition that 5yrs old battery with programs on your charger-analyzer (Refresh, Cycle, Break_in), the battery should be back at ~1900mAh. Hardly any degradation took place because Eneloop rocks!

Answer B:
When the battery is new and fully charged, you'll get min 1900mAh out of it (in a standard discharge). When the battery is new and fully charged and you store it untouched unused for 5 years at normal conditions, the max capacity will have diminished down to ~1330mAh. This means that when you try to recondition that 5yrs old battery with programs on your charger-analyzer (Refresh, Cycle, Break_in), you'll notice that it cannot hold more than ~1330mAh charge. Basically the battery has degraded by ~570mAh. Time to toss it!

Interesting question. I am rooting for Answer A. :thumbsup:

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kreisl said:

General Eneloop question:

The blister package claims "After 5 years capacity remains 70%" for my Panasonic Eneloop Tropical AA min 1900mAh. So what does this really mean, answer A or B?

Answer A:
When the battery is new and fully charged, you'll get min 1900mAh out of it (in a standard discharge). When the battery is new and fully charged and you store it untouched unused at normal conditions AND FINALLY do a standard discharge you'll get min 1330mAh (=0.70*1900) out of it. AND THEN, when you recondition the 5yrs old battery with programs on your charger-analyzer (Refresh, Cycle, Break_in), the battery will be back at ~1900mAh max capacity.

Answer B:
When the battery is new and fully charged, you'll get min 1900mAh out of it (in a standard discharge). When the battery is new and fully charged and you store it untouched unused at normal conditions, the max capacity will have diminished down to ~1330mAh (=0.70*1900). This means that when you try to recondition the 5yrs old battery with programs on your charger-analyzer (Refresh, Cycle, Break_in) AND FINALLY do a standard discharge you'll get no more than 1330mAh out of it.

Interesting question. I am rooting for Answer A. :thumbsup:

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Answer A is closest in my opinion also, especially looking at the done tests by several members. Although, new eneloops never come 100% charged, so you'd have to charge them anyway.. So I personally would still call them new, but some people might call them used, as they left the Original sealed package

The underlined text says max capacity, and earlier in answer A you said minimal capacity. I would probably say Min instead of Max at that point if I wanted to be picky

Answer B is not correct.