Updated -(1)- 10th April - ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

[DreamScape]

ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

ROP Vs Mag85

Just though I'd share these beam shots with you all.

I'd sent my Mag85 3D over to Phil to play with.
Unfortunately the postman dropped it and damaged the switch.
The switch was pushed forward but he managed to sort it out.
Big Thanks to Phil for doing the Pics :wave:
I just put them together for better comparision.

The contenders for comparisons are:

Phil's ROP 2D Black Maglite History & Info on the ROP Here
Borofloat Lens
MOP Reflector large hole
High ROP bulb PR
Modamag Battery Holder 6AA
Fully Charged CBP 1650's
Spring Mod to reduce resistance

My Mag85 3D Black Maglite What is a Mag85 Here
Borofloat Lens
MOP Lens small Hole
WA1185 Bulb Bi Pin
FM Battery Holder 9AA
Fully Charged CBP 1650's
Kiu Socket
ProGolded all Contacts

All photos.

Camera: Minolta DImage 5
ISO: 800
Shutter: 4 sec
Aperture f/8

No local lighting other than lights off in the distance and light pollution on the horizon from local town.

So, even though these have MOP's they can still throw :rock:

Some More below Enjoy :naughty:






OK UPDATED -(1)- 10th April 2006

A larger version HERE 3072 x 1730 1MB

Just though I'd share some more beam shots with you all as promised.

The contenders for comparisons are:

Mag85 NEW 3D Black Maglite
Borofloat Lens
MOP Lens Large Hole
WA1185 Bulb Bi Pin
FM Battery Holder 9AA
Fully Charged Sanyo 2500's
Kiu Socket
ProGolded all Contacts

Mag85 OLD 3D Black Maglite
Borofloat Lens
MOP Lens small Hole
WA1185 Bulb Bi Pin
FM Battery Holder 9AA
Fully Charged CBP 1650's
Kiu Socket
ProGolded all Contacts

My ROP 2D Black Maglite
Borofloat Lens
MOP Reflector large hole
High ROP bulb PR
FM's Battery Holder 6AA
Fully Charged CBP 1650's
No Further Mods this time round.

All Night shots:

Camera: Canon PowerShot A620
ISO: 400
Shutter: 2 sec
Aperture: F 2.8

No local lighting, all pics taken on a Tripod.
Torches held about 12 inches below Camera on the Tripods small platform.

Ok, these three different shots are at actual far to near distances and not zoomed!
Top column distance to tree - 150m or 492' or 164 yards
Middle column distance to tree – 93m or 305' or 102 yards
Bottom column distance to tree – 68m or 223' or 74 yards

Analysis:

These where taken in our local park at around 2330.
The wife and I went for a walk around in the day to recky some good spots.
This was the first time out doing night shots so bare with, they will get better.

First out was the Mag85 New (Sanyo's). I wanted to see the difference in the Sanyo 2500's to the CBP 1650's which is quite apparent. Even though the Mag85 Old (CBP) has the small holed reflector is was obvious the CBP pumped out the power.
When I get more time I will compare different reflectors and battery packs properly.
I set the camera's settings to be very similar to what I could see.
The Mag85 Old with the CBP's was awesome to see in action compared to the M3T that had tagged along.

The ROP wasn't as bright as the Mag85 on the Sanyo's. Not far off though.


So, Just a reminder for myself how much of a difference the Mag85 and ROP is compared to the standard Mags!! :devil:

I hope you have enjoyed :naughty:

Until next time...Take it Easy

 

[offroadcmpr]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Nice pics, the ROP doesn't stand a chance!

 

[jwl]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Dreamscape - Nice photos!:rock: I just finished my ROP and I have been looking at doing the Mag85. Now, I don't think I can resist.

 

[Cliffnopus]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Great post, thanks

Cliff

 

[PlayboyJoeShmoe]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

I don't have any CBP NimH but have decent luck with Energizer and Rayovac.

My ROP doesn't seem as bright on 6AA as on 2x18650. This is purely my thoughts though as back-to-back testing is impossible for me.

My M*g85 doesn't have any low resistence mods, but still KILLS the ROP.

Thanks for doing the pics!!!!

 

[thezman]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Nice. Thanks for the pics.

The MOP is impressive in the 85.

 

[baylisstic]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

which MOP was that? Litho's or Modamag's?

 

[cue003]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Wow, I didn't know it was that much of a difference.

Curtis

 

[Ledean]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Those are some great beamshots .
I must say that for a real simple mod the ROP is great .

 

[andrewwynn]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

nice pics.. love the daytime comparison.. anybody have an 1111 to compare?.. the poor ROP doesn't stand a chance against the '85

-awr

 

[lexina]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

nice shots! great of you to make 2 trips out to each of the spots so that we could have a day-time view!

 

[Delvance]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Some nice pics there! Wow, crazy to see such a big difference between the two! Isn't the M@g85 rated at 1350 bulb lumens or so ? And the ROP is roughly 1150 bulb lumens. Find it hard to believe those 200 lumens can make such a difference ? Maybe the numbers are wrong :shrug: I got to build myself one of those somedays...after my current build.

 

[Flakey]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

will the ROP high run off of 2 18650s? if so , for how long? great picks, i love the tight beam of the rop, im planning to make a small thrower using a 2c rop high with a smo reflector.

 

[PlayboyJoeShmoe]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

I've heard 20-25 minutes bandied about.

My ROP is exactly like that. And it's pretty bright!

It has a big hole SMO, and even though darn bright my M*g85 still crushes it!

 

[Fusion_m8]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Hi guys:

If I have a standard 6C & 6D Maglite and can only convert one of them into a MAG85,

1) which one will yield the best results(most lumens, farthest throw)?
2) will I still be able to use readily available C or D alkaline cells?


Thanks.

 

[RoyJ]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Hi guys:

If I have a standard 6C & 6D Maglite and can only convert one of them into a MAG85,

1) which one will yield the best results(most lumens, farthest throw)?
2) will I still be able to use readily available C or D alkaline cells?


Thanks.

At 3+ amps, I'm pretty sure alkalines are out of the question. You wouldn't want to anyway, it'll start dimming within seconds.

If you don't mind the size, I guess 8 C Ni-MH cells in the 6D mag should give plenty runtime.

 

[andrewwynn]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

flakey got 8C into the 6C host.. yes you need to use NiMH.. but with 4-5AH you will get quite a long burn.. also.. 8C is under-driving an 1185, so the bulb will last forever (in hotwire time).. over 100 hr bulb life (but only about 440L.. normal Mag85 with 9 cells is more like 760L).

The holy cow output for that size is running the Westinghouse 6V lamp from 8C NiMH.. we estimate about 1500+Lumen! it will run direct-drive.. and pulling about 6A, it should last about 40 minutes. send flakey a PM he's the one that made that combo.

 

[missionaryman]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

thanks for the pics DS - It's so good when someone takes the side by side comparison shots of the hotwires.

The MAG85 on the CBP's is definately brighter than mine on Energizers.



great photos - excellent work

 

[Burnt_Retinas]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Just what I've been waiting for, a back-to-back ROP Vs 85.

Nice real-life outdoor shots. Great work,

Chris

 

[pippyd]

Re: ROP Vs Mag85 Beam Shots

Thanks to Dreamscape for lending me the awesome mag85 to compare it to the ROP, shame Royal Mail managed to do it some damage The pictures above are at my local country park where I walk the dog every morning and evening, thought it would make a good location for some comparison shots.

For reference the 2nd row of pictures there is a white square that I'm focusing the beam on. This is a cricket screen on a nearby cricket pitch, it's probably something like 6m tall at a guess and is at the other end of the cricket pitch to the fence that surrounds it that you can see in the middle distance (not the stumps in the foreground).

My next build will be a mag85 once fivemega does some more batt holders (i missed the last batch as they sell so fast!) and it will be going in a HA-III body from one of the other GBs. I've got a LOP and MOP now so I'll also be able to do a few comparison shots in the same location.

My ROP had new CBP1650s in it for the photos but I had put them through a discharge/charge cycle in a BC-900 charger then used them a couple of times for 5-10mins in the ROP before a full discharge/charge for the photos.


Cheers, Phil