50mm Maglite Mods

Klem

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Extending AJ,s questions on another thread here are a couple of 50mm Maglite mods.

Both use the Bill Bowen toggle circuit; one uses reed switching while the other uses a piezo. The aim is to extend the 50mm diameter of the Maglite head for the full length of the torch. The generous 50mm of body space now allows for battery packs like 4*18650 Li-ion in a 2S2P configuration, 7.4V, 5Ah. I find the 50mm diameter is fine for gripping underwater and fits nicely in a BC pouch or on the arm (no need for cable and canister). Both negatively buoyant, without needing to add weight.

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The left uses a toggle circuit with piezo, 50mm piping and O ring end cap. The right uses a toggle circuit with array of 4 reed switches, 50mm piping with central O ring join.

The 3 Cree XR-E's are a drop-in by Terralux, however from reading this forum I have no doubt you guys can improve on that...so I'll stick to what I can contribute... the concept and build.

Take the head of a Maglite and lathe the back half of it to press-fit into the internal diameter of 50mm pipe. The OD of 50mm pressure pipe will be exactly the OD of a Maglite head (if you live in 'Down Under' it will be). Note the couple of deeper channels lathed into it to prevent glue starvation.

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One of the lenses is 4mm glass, while the other is 5mm Perspex. Both lenses are glued into the bezel with epoxy putty (Aqua Knead-it, by Selleys). Both Maglite head O rings are discarded and the bezel-to-head seal is from a tube of silicone sealant (Silastic). You don't need to open this on a regular basis, if at all.

The black end-cap torch is pretty straight forward so I won't dwell on that. The middle-seal torch has a sealed forward section, which minimizes damage if it floods. It is also more compact.
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Shown below is the first build of the middle-sealing design. The 7.4V Li-ion pack is a perfect fit in the back end which is also great for minimizing buoyancy. The two plugs; The Deans plug (red one) is for normal charging and the JST plug (white one) is for balance charging.

The reed switches were originally glued to that expanding collar, which you can see just fits just inside the front join. All was well until some clumsy oaf (me) dropped the torch on the deck and the shock cracked one of the reeds to permanently on...which got me thinking as to how to bomb-proof the design.
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The later improved build (below) uses 4 reed switches in a square array protected in foam (the yellow cross), and away from any transmitted shock coming through the body. The 4 reeds are at cardinal points which allows the magnet to come at the torch from any direction.

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The front half of the torch is sealed with a waterproof bulkhead (with the humidity inside purged first with a hairdryer). Brass bolts are the interface contacts. Both torches use 4*18650 Li-ion packs, 5Ah 7.4V. Note the protection circuit running down the side in the cavity between the batteries.
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Switching the reed-switch version is via a rare-earth magnet sewn into a hollow strip of some climbing tape, which also acts as the lanyard. The magnet is sewn at exactly the length for when pulled tight along the outside. Makes switching in murky conditions a lot easier. The lanyard points are 6mm stainless U bolts with washers on the inside to spread the load. Normally used for rope clamping, and found in your local hardware store. The right hand photo is water testing the bulkhead in a tub for a few days. Sometimes I go down to the local bridge and lower torches on rope into the river to get a bit of pressure on them. The fishermen must think I'm bonkers.
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I also made an armband for hands-free, fits both torches; made out of some old wet-suit material and 20 minutes with a hand-stitcher. Slips on and off, both above and below the water. No offence to anyone but I find armbands more 'hands-free' than the Goodman design, especially when grabbing things like rope or ladders....Or crays!

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Safe diving, and if you're good Uncle Klem will give you his famous recipe for pan-fried crays with garlic butter, pepper and lime juice!
 
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Very interesting idea UNCLE Klem!!! I have been pondering on how to build a non-canister light with a reed switch.. This may be a start. I think I may just make a tube that threads into the back but is wider in the non-threaded section.
Are you running the reed by itself or do you have some MOSFET circuit or something to handle the current?
Thanks
 
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Wow. Nice post, excellent pics.
You're right there's lots for you to learn here about led's, drivers, etc. and you could really pump up the output and efficiency of those.
And thanx for sharing your innovation, given lots of us another great light build thread, and an original new mod to a standard light.
Best,
Linger
 
Mate, yes that would work nicely.

One thing to think about however is you'd be stuck with the original length of the Maglite head. Not shown in the machined head photo is how I cut for the second more compact torch. Lathe it up to the yellow line and you have a shorter head, and immediate use of 50mm of internal diameter.
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Every centimeter counts!:thumbsup:
 
350...To answer your question. Yes, both the piezo and reeds use the same toggle circuit, which channels the the high amps through a MOSFET. You can see in the photos the circuit protected in the orange foam. The FET is the big silver TO220 package component bent on an angle to fit.
 
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Mate, yes that would work nicely.

One thing to think about however is you'd be stuck with the original length of the Maglite head. Not shown in the machined head photo is how I cut for the second more compact torch. Lathe it up to the yellow line and you have a shorter head, and immediate use of 50mm of internal diameter.
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Every centimeter counts!:thumbsup:

Good point!
 
Couple more pickies and explanation...

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Close-up of internals of the middle-seal torch. As I said, I prefer this design, not just because it is more compact, but because of the forward anti-flood bulkhead, and the floating clamping ring. With the end-cap torch the lanyard attachment point is on the O ringed cap, which although is done up with the 'strength of a thousand guinea pigs' it always worries me being tugged around underwater as a loosening force on the threads and seal. With the middle-seal torch this is not a problem, as the lanyard is attached to a fixed cap solidly glued to the pipe.

Note the bulkead disk has a shoulder to rest against (and push against if it floods). This is a piece of 50mm PVC pipe measured to come up hard against the inside of the Maglite head. A narrow slice was removed to allow it to compress and then spring back once inside against the ID of the torch. The bulkhead disk is then pushed in and glued up against it. That yellow foam compresses and it's all snug inside.

The photo also gives a closer look at the square 4-reed switch array. I used one of those kiddie foamy boards 'borrowed' from the local swimming pool. Cut a circle with a hole saw, and then the shape of a cross. Then drilled 1mm holes into each arms and carefully fed the reeds through. Solder together the legs and snip off the excess. Then solder wires to the joins so they are all in parallel.

The waterproofing of the interface brass bolts is Sikaflex Marine, polyeurathane glue.

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Here's a set of measurements for the 'Prawn Punisher'. I don't use O rings when sealing the bezel to the Maglite head. That way you can get away with thicker lenses without the need to screw it past the threads to cover the O ring. There's a 1.8mm gap left when you screw the bezel tight against a 5mm Perspex lens but that's OK because the waterproofing is in the thread itself; using Silcone sealant like Silastic. Silastic is not a permanent seal and if you ever want to 'crack' it open again then a couple of wooden clamps in the vise makes this easy.[Yes, I know...Uncle Klem has punished his torch as well as the prawns!]

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The right hand photo shows how brass screws are used to push the LED against the inside shoulders, to ensure a thermal path for heat dissipation. It was a mistake. If you look closely you can see scratch marks on the inside perspex in a circular pattern, caused by sharp edges on the bolts carving into the soft lens at it tightened up.

If you made your own light heads like most of you do then this may not be an issue. For example, I like Packhorse's idea of a cylindrical chunk of aluminium carefully lathed to press fit, which then exands further with heat. A stepped shoulder would do the same thing.

Another improvement would be to have some sort of regularly removable hole in the bulkhead disk, so you can purge the front section from time to time of whatever gas and humidity builds up or is trapped there over time.

I don't have regular access to a lathe so the PVC back section and Maglite front is a compromise in effort and resources. If however you could find similar metal pipe parts in 50mm then this would also be an improvement...But at some point it stops being a mod, and we'll all be machining complete torches from scratch!
 
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Alright Klem, you have inspired me to carry out my no-canister light idea... The 50mm mag mod you have here will be the "inspiration"..

I will use a 4 18650 pack 2s2p with a cree mce module from DX. I will also use a 25W reed switch and see how it works. I will machine a custom barrel that will thread into the back of the mag head (yes, I know I can lose a few mm by going on the outside of the head, but the inside will serve as the heatsink the module will be pressed into. I will use one of my custom cut boro glass lenses... I will probably put an oring between the head and the barrel for easly taking it apart later... Oh, and may be once done some HAIII, I have some other stuff that could use HAIII.

I machined the head today losing the unthreaded section at the bottom of the head where the barrel goes in. I also machined the inside to accept the reflector/LED module...

Hopefully will be finished in time for my trip to cave country in October!

More to come.

Oh, and check this out--- Oxycheq Universal Light Sock will be the handle:
http://oxycheq.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_38&products_id=519
 
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Hector, that sounds great mate...looking forward to seeing some pickies and hear how it goes!:thumbsup:

I still havent got round to replacing my stock of toggle switch components but let you know when I do. The 25W reed must be a monster! I know Packhorse has a simple design using lesser-rated reeds in conjunction with a FET (for a system that is designed to have the magnet against the reed in the 'on' condition).

The light-sock idea is also interesting...haven't seen that before. Although knowing how bulky my torches are I'm wondering whether it's too little support, and too close to your fingers. On the lower arm is fine, and doesnt bang against anything you are trying to handle with your fingers.

All good!
 
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