A quick review : Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

[csshih]

Hey All,

a quick comparison for those who are curious about Thrunite's XP-G Dropin.

I got my hands on this one from jake25 over at the MP.
here's the interesting thread: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=202189

now available at battery junction! http://www.batteryjunction.com/thrunite-p60-r5.html

hm, unlabled box. these are R5 XP-G Dropins

the dropin itself (the brass part) is oddly enough, cylindrical. most dropins are more trapezoid-ish on the bottom

headshot of the Cree XP-G

the thrunite throws better than the 47s Ti quark 123^2 tactical

using the peak function on my luxmeter (extech HD450)

thrunite XP-G dropin 9.37 peak
47 123^2 TI quark 5.35 peak
Lumensfactory D26 LED Dropin 10.53 peak
Dereelight 3SD WG OP 11.28 peak

a runtime with my new meter!

runtime stopped early, but there is a pretty low mode that will go on for quite a bit. when the discharge was stopped, voltage after resting was at 3.2V.
Yes, that hump is real, I tested 3 times (trying to get the meter to load data) with the exact same results every time!

Outdoor Beamshots

compare with other lights here: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=235171

ThruNite XP-G Dropin (Lumensfactory SP6 host) 1x18650

The ThruNite XP-G Dropin has the cleanest beam profile of all the P60 dropins I own. It also has a very large hotspot (due to the use of the XP-G with its bigger die), which would make it less of a candidate as a thrower. The output and efficiency, though, is no slouch. This is currently my favorite dropin... one of the brightest and most efficient dropins you can get without venturing into the MC-E dropins, which will have a donut hole in the beam, and get very hot very quickly.

 

[nanotech17]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

cool.
the reflector looks identical to the SF 80lumens SSC drop in module.

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

oh? the reflector only fits XP-Gs/XP-Es.

 

[jake25]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

outdoor beamshots please

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

Sorry -- couldn't get beamshots yesterday. Will get them tonight.

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

see first post for outdoor shots!

 

[JakeGMCHD]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

How's the run time on this module?

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look and comparison: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin

added runtime and outdoor beamshots.
thank you all for waiting!

 

[Phaserburn]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

csshih, would you say this module is worthwhile if you already have some bright dropins? What's your overall viewpoint?

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

Among my dropins, this would be the one I'd use in my edc, as it has the smoothest beam and good output. But, if you don't care about beam quality as much or care about the wider hotspot, I am unsure as to if you should upgrade or not.
There is noticeable output gain, yes, but it isn't the most noticeable. (blame how our eyes perceive light)

I would definately recommend the dropin over others if someone needed a new dropin.

 

[phantom23]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

Good output? :thinking:
Thrunite XP-G R5:

Dereelight CL1H 1SM-2 R2

PS. Your Deree 3SD WG has very nice tint.

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

typo! I think that dropin might be the 3SD WH R2. anyways..
well, it's somewhat hard to tell how bright the dropin is from beamshots.

for example, if you compare the dereelight, then the malkoff:

it would appear that the dereelight is quite a bit brighter than the malkoff due to the beam profile... even the flood of the dereelight appears brighter?
according to MrGman's lumens testing thread, the dereelight dropin maxes at:
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___215__turn-on
and the malkoff at:
Malkoff M60________________220__warm
(by the way, I'm using the MD-2 host, which should allow even higher output because it has no glass window to reduce output.)

now check out the thrunite:

the hotspot of the thrunite appears (I think) wider? (somewhat harder to tell.. the malkoff was aimed too low)

now, toss in the 990mAh driven titanium quark:

wider, dimmer hotspot, brighter spill.

or even compare those close range photos I took. the thrunite at close range appears to be brighter than the 4sevens quark. :thinking: then again, the quark has a slightly bigger hotspot.

total output is always hard to actually test. you should just choose dropins by their beam profile. :shrug:

either that, or my batteries were low when I took the shots. :shrug:
I'll redo them when I have the chance.

 

[kramer5150]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

Whats the current draw at the tailcap, using:
1x18650
1x18650-IMR
2xRCR123

??

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

Hmmm I never thought to check that. *1x18650: .94Ah 2xrcr123a: .47Ah
* in comparison: ti 123^2 quark: 2xrcr123a: .47 ah

this is on a cheapo dmm

 

[monkeyboy]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

This is a good review csshih. I'm looking forward to getting hold of one of these myself. I was just thinking, there might be a few factors which could explain the unexpected differences in brightness of the beamshots.

- The pictures were taken at different times. The pictures with the greener healthier grass would appear dimmer as the reflectivity of the grass is lower.

- Was the ground wet? This would greatly reduce the reflectivity of everything. The footpath looks much darker in 2 of the pics suggesting that it is wet on those pics and dry in the others.

- Were they shot with the same camera? Different cameras apply different image processing and have different response to colours, so even thought they were shot at the same exposure value (shutter-speed/aperture/ISO), the apparent brightness of the beamshot would not be constant.

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

- Was the ground wet? This would greatly reduce the reflectivity of everything. The footpath looks much darker in 2 of the pics suggesting that it is wet on those pics and dry in the others.

I thought about the camera portion.. all the pictures have been used with the same camera and lens..
..BUT, I did not think about the ground being wet.

yea, the grass is wet.

I was planning on redoing all the beamshots sometime. looks like that time might be coming soon.

 

[outersquare]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

heh saratoga with their city laws banning street lights sure does make for some nice pitch black backyards..

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

except that everyone always has their front lights on... plenty of light pollution

hey.. you in saratoga?

 

[outersquare]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

lol i wish i was high roller like that

i had some buddies from college that grew up there, i visited the city once or twice, that is the first thing that stands out, how dark it is, lol.

 

[csshih]

Re: A quick look: Thrunite's XP-G R5 Dropin (Beamshots, Runtime, Comparisons)

curses, my quest to find a saratoga cpf member hath failed again.

plenty o' san jose members, though :thumbsup: