Amondotech Illuminator 4200K and POB

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What is the difference between the POB running with a 4300K
lamp and the AI?
Does anyone have both of these beasts and would like to give
a "user's" opinion?
 
What is the difference between the POB running with a 4300K
lamp and the AI?
Does anyone have both of these beasts and would like to give
a "user's" opinion?


I believe it's only going to be a possible slight difference in tint due to bulb variation. I think the reflector has always been the same in that chassis format.
 
Some guys have posted here that they are pretty much the
same light. They just look different.
It seems to me that if you had a 4300k in the POB, you would
not be able to tell the difference between the beams of these
two lights. Am I right?

P.S. Oh, and yeah, I'm itching to spend money again!! LOL!
this forum is going to kill me yet!!
 
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It seems to me that if you had a 4300k in the POB, you would
not be able to tell the difference between the beams of these
two lights. Am I right?

Yes and no. I'd say they'd look different unless the reflector was exactly the same, just to name one thing.

The 35w bulbs I've experimented with sometimes have some slight variation in color unless from the same run of bulbs. Also, as I understand it, the rated color temps given by the manufacturers are an average of that color but generally should remain throughout the bulbs life.

With that said, the next consideration is eventual "color shift" which takes place after the bulb breaks in. Higher quality bulbs can take 100-500 hours for this to happen when yellow begins to dissipate yielding a slightly cooler or blue color. It can be a change of approximately 250k-500k, but I'm not positive. Since it happens slowly, I doubt an untrained eye would perceive it. Perhaps with generic bulbs, this can happen sooner and to a higher degree.

The reflector, which is the heart of an HID spotlight or flashlight can play the largest part of all, but I won't go there. I think you get the point.

So, how do I deal with all the complexities of HID color, simple, I ignore all the above and test them and use the HID flashlights that has the most appealing color temp I like, which is nice and warm...LOL That's my scientific approach. :naughty:
 
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Yes and no. I'd say they'd look different unless the reflector was exactly the same, just to name one thing.

The 35w bulbs I've experimented with sometimes have some slight variation in color unless from the same run of bulbs. Also, as I understand it, the rated color temps given by the manufacturers are an average of that color but generally should remain throughout the bulbs life.

With that said, the next consideration is eventual "color shift" which takes place after the bulb breaks in. Higher quality bulbs can take 100-500 hours for this to happen when yellow begins to dissipate yielding a slightly cooler or blue color. It can be a change of approximately 250k-500k, but I'm not positive. Since it happens slowly, I doubt an untrained eye would perceive it. Perhaps with generic bulbs, this can happen sooner and to a higher degree.

The reflector, which is the heart of an HID spotlight or flashlight can play the largest part of all, but I won't go there. I think you get the point.

So, how do I deal with all the complexities of HID color, simple, I ignore all the above and test them and use the HID flashlights that has the most appealing color temp I like, which is nice and warm...LOL That's my scientific approach. :naughty:

Arent the reflectors in these two lights identical?

Also, as you say, what real-world difference would one actually see?

I mean, if I took them both out in the field and compared beams, would
one be obviously different?
 
The lights are/were produced by the same company so the reflectors are probably the same.
 
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Thank you for that info BVH.
So, does anyone have both lights?


I don't know of anyone who owns both. Most that own the AT 3152 didn't have a reason to go out and buy the inferior, blue-er POB.

What myself and Richie were touching on is the different batches of same spec'd bulbs may have minor color variances. In addition to that not every reflector surface is exactly identical. One batch may not be quite as shiny and so forth. This is especially true since we're talking about $100 lights.

I think the question has been answered though. By installing a 4300K bulb in the POB there's not really going to be any real world difference, practically speaking.
 
I don't want to thread cap, but since I was looking at both of these and now the proud owner of a couple POB's, I tried to do a search for the POB 4300K upgrade and came up with so many hits I don't know how to sort them. Is there a specific thread that dealt with swapping the bulb in a POB light to a 4300K?
 
I don't want to thread cap, but since I was looking at both of these and now the proud owner of a couple POB's, I tried to do a search for the POB 4300K upgrade and came up with so many hits I don't know how to sort them. Is there a specific thread that dealt with swapping the bulb in a POB light to a 4300K?


See this long thread - there are pics and links:http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=210567

Basically, you buy a 4300K H7 bulb and put it in. Should take about 5 minutes if you have a tri wing tamper proof bit set.
 
I have the original AI sample that has a 6,000K bulb and the 4200K AI.
I have done numerous photo shoots with these lights and BVH has been at most of them.
The 4200K bulb makes the light much more useable.

Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:
 
This man speaks the truth!

It's <5min job, good improvement.

Other than case color, the seem identical from here.

I do have a POB and just bought a 4300K lamp for the upgrade,
however, my POB died!! I am in the process of fixing it.
I also have a AI with the 4200k lamp from Battery Junction.

Since I cant compare the 2 beams side by side yet, I am wondering
what to expect when I finally do get it working and stick the 4300k
lamp in it. Someone on the forum (cant find his post) said I will not
be able to see the difference.
That's why I was getting you guys opinions :thinking:
 
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