BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part IX)

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UPDATED MAY 23rd 2009
- I now own a Canon 100mm F2.8 Macro USM lense!
- So I'll be doing more closeup photos of each flashlight.
- Added 4 photos to the AKOray K-103 review.
- Added 4 photos to the AKOray K-106 review.

UPDATED MAY 15th 2009
- New Review - AKOray K-103 AAA CREE Q5 1-Mode light.
- It's good. AKOray is definitely making a name for themselves.
- Added new photos for MTE SSC P7 and KD Long Throw 2-mode.

UPDATED APRIL 25th 2009

- Just received the MTE SF-22 SSC P7-D-SXO 5-Mode.
- I've reviewed it HERE. Driver died after a full runtime test. =(
- I knew I shouldn't have risked it. Oh well, time to mod. =P


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[Budget LED DX/KD Flashlights Review Roundup]


Part 1 , Part 2 , Part 3 , Part 4 , Part 5 , Part 6 , Part 7 , Part 8 and now Part 9! (WOW)
FYI - This main initial post carries over. (Except Part 4 that includes many of old reviews)
But I will try and make sure you don't need to go back as much as possible.

[BESSIEBENNY REVIEWS]

fyi - If it doesn't say "New Lightbox", it is the OLD lightbox which is different.

[05 15 2009] ★★★★★- AKOray K-103 AAA CREE Q5 1-Mode
[04 25 2009] ★★★★★★ - MTE SF-22 SSC P7-D-SXO 5-Mode
[03 28 2009] ★★★★★★- Akoray K-106 3-mode Q5 AA/14500 (Best bang for buck AA flashlight)
[03 15 2009] ★★★★★★ - Kaidomain 2-Mode HAIII Long Throw Q5
[02 22 2009] ★★★★★- planet bike blaze 1W w\ superflash
[02 18 2009] ★★★★★★ - TANK007 TK-702 P4
[12 17 2008] ★★★★★- KD Buckle V5 HAIII XRT
[12 10 2008] ★★★★★- MTE C2-1 Q5 AA
[11 16 2008] ★★★★★- Romisen RC-T6
[08 24 2008] ★★★★★★ - Quick 6 flashlights Impressions
[08 10 2008] ★★★★★★ - Romisen RC-A8
[06 21 2008] ★★★★★- Romisen RC-A3
[06 06 2008] ★★★★★- Romisen RC-F4 Q5 Shiningbeam
[05 01 2008] ★★★★★★ - Romisen RC-I3
[04 16 2008] ★★★★★- Romisen RC-G2 Q5 Shiningbeam
[03 27 2008] ★★★★★★ - Romisen RC-N3

Older Reviews - Check here and here for now.


[REVIEWS POSTED BY OTHER MEMBERS IN THIS THREAD]

[May 20 2009] Ultrafire A20 Q5 Cree 5-mode RCR by old4570
[May 02 2009] Romisen RC-N3 v SmallSun ZY-C61 by Luau
[Apr 15 2009] RCR123A Battery Test Roundup by old4570
[Apr 04 2009] Ultrafire 503B & Trustfire TR-C2 Pics and 503B REVIEW by kramer5150
[Mar 29 2009] Ultrafire WF-502B / 501B by old4570
[Mar 28 2009] AKOray K-106 beam shot comparison by vali
[Mar 18 2009] 2 x 3W Cheap AA Flashlights by nuron
[Mar 13 2009] Ultrafire 602C vs KD Cree Q3 by old4570
[Mar 09 2009] Akoray K-102 / Romisen RC-H3 / MTE C2-1 by copperfox
[Mar 04 2009] SacredFire NF-011 Cree P4-WC by Phill
[Feb 18 2009] Akoray K-102 by Hrvoje
[Feb 18 2009] Romisen RC-A3 by seaside
[Feb 18 2009] Kaidomain 2-Mode HAIII Long Throw R2 (sku:S004798) by skyva
[Feb 17 2009] Romisen RC-G2 (non-Q5) Review by rockz4532
[Feb 12 2009] Romisen RC-N3 & Akoray K-102 by vali

- PM me if I missed yours. Some I didn't include as I wasn't sure what light was reviewed or was just a bit too short etc.
- If your review is in the closed thread but you want to update/modify it, just copy your review into this new thread as a new post then PM me.


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PLEASE SEE PART 4 FOR ALL THE REVIEWS THAT ARE NOT LISTED ABOVE. EXCEPT LOW RATED ONES WHICH ARE HERE INSTEAD.


[RESULTS AT A GLANCE]

Star Rating
★★★★★★ - Buy it now! Amazing bang for the buck!
- It is excellent. A great buy! Won't regret it.
- Pretty darn good. It's not the best but not bad either.
- It's 'ok' but there's nothing that great about it imo.
- Not good. Avoid if if you can coz it's not worth it.
- Why am I even reviewing this?! Total waste of $$$.

Chart Download Links
High - http://sharebee.com/67ec17d1 (Uploaded April 5th 2009)
Low - http://sharebee.com/94696242 (Uploaded April 5th 2009)

[HIGH PERFORMANCE / HIGH RATED LIGHTS] - - Link to reviews prior to Romisen RC-T6 are HERE
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[LOW RATED, LOW PERFORMANCE or DISCONTINUED] - Link to reviews for below lights HERE
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NOTE: Output values are for the near absolute peak while batteries are fully charged at its highest voltage.
Always check the runtime graph if available as you cannot expect all light to maintain such values for very long.


[FLASHLIGHTS] - Not all flashlights reviewed may yet be shown below. (very outdated now)


Submitted by MetalZone

[FYI]

- GITD silicone tailcap I mention throughout are all DX sku 5714 unless stated otherwise. (Orange ones are not GITD but are same size)
- Measurements are using my own DMM and Light Meter in near-identical controlled conditions. (Still assume around plus or minus 10% error)
Throw = Firing the center of the hotspot directly at the sensor from 1m away using fully charged batteries. (Close to initial peak)
Lightbox = My own cardboard box where I fire light in through a hole and measure the lux reading inside after 1 minute. (no direct light to the sensor)

[Output Photos]
1. Wall Shot - Taken in a near pitch dark room with lights firing at a white wall from around 40cm away. (F5.0 1/60sec ISO 400)
2. Kitchen - Taken in a near pitch dark room with lights firing at the back corner of my kitchen from around 7m away. (F2.8 1/25 ISO 800)

[Runtime Graphs]
Light is shone on to the light meter's sensor from about 1 inch away.
There is a small camera lense in between to collect most of the light.
Current output of the light sensor is measured by my datalogging DMM.
Current output is close to the overal amount of light and not just throw.
So it is relatively comparable with graphs of other lights in my review.
But do take into account that my graphs may have up to 10% of error.

Just an FYI - Any reading of 0.005mA or higher is still quite useable.
It's enough to find a key hole or see stuff in very dark environments.

[Batteries]

Some tips/recommendations for some battery types.

RCR123A
Check out Raymond's RCR123A battery test thread.
Also RCR123A Battery Test Roundup by old4570.

AA/AAA
If you use the lights very often and recharge often, get high capacity ones.
It should at least cost you about ~$5 for 2 AA or AAA if it's a decent battery.
LSD (Low-Self-Discharge) or 'Ready' batteries are better if you intend it as an emergency light. (Recyko, Eneloop etc)
Coz it holds around 80% of its charge even after not using it for a whole year.
Use a smart charger whenever possible also for best rssults.

[Glossary]
OP Reflector = Orange Peel reflector. Also called a rough / textured reflector. It helps in smoothing out the beam so there's less of ugly rings or black holes / artifacts. But it results in less throw output.
EDC = Every Day Carry light. For most people, it means it fits in their desired jeans/jacket/bag pocket and it's their most often used light. For me, it's a small enough light which fits in my jeans pocket. =)
Forward clicky - It's a switch which turns on the light when half-pressed while the light is off. So you can simply tap the switch to light it up without needing to press it fully and turn it on permanently. Good for manual flashing signals and quick usage. It's also called a positive clicky.
Reverse clicky - It's the opposite of above. Generally what everyone would think a normal switch would do. You need to full depress the switch to turn on the light permanently. While on, you can do half presses to turn the light off.
Throw - The ability to throw the center hotspot a long way. The intensity or the brightness of the center hotspot determines how far it can light up things. Usually, higher the throw value means smaller the hotspot or a less bright spill. So it may not be as useful for short distances. Flashlights that use smooth reflecters generally have more throw than ones with OP reflector.


[help~!] [help~!] [help~!]
I am constantly running short on funds to buy and review more recent lights. :mecry:
Feel free to send me $2 or $4 or $8 donations so that I can keep adding new lights. :devil:
(fyi - Paypal takes away ~40 cents per donation which sorta sux.)

All new lights from FEB 2008 will be bought with the addition of your donations. (if any )
I thank you for all for the amazing support so far. It helps greatly to keep this thread alive!

You may instead opt to use my referral id at DX. It doesn't cost you anything which is the best part. =)
To use my id, just add ~r.29749062 directly to the end of any product url address. (without "" of course)
Every ~$1300 spent using my referral id, I get $10. Not a lot but better than nothing I guess. =P

Donations received:
bensonm < APRIL '09 tommy_tiger66, old4570 < MARCH '09 dp62 < FEBRUARY '09 AndreD, lenny, waddup < NOVEMBER '08 JEFFSR < OCTOBER holeymoley < SEPTEMBER FlemingWak < AUGUST gunnut, PhantomLights, tmlwyb, Dandan, Crescendopower < JULY RafS, ScottM, SteveZ, Rizky ,WarriorZ, kostas, yekimak, JoeBob, smootik, RepoUK < JUNE stinky, Wolf359, alohaluau, johnnyngo, OCDGearhead, Wagen < MAY Wolf359, Centropolis, amdaxiom, t3h, Deks, SPRocketman, Flash25296, Fabio, tip61 < APRIL Wolf359, dudu84, marcus, Pokerstud, wmissen, RecycledElectron, qtaco, fizzy, briiansd, meuge, SportyBen, Raymond < MARCH Schierle, HenryL, Andres(ocau), baconheist, Dougmeister, linterno, anarchocap, saedwards, docian37, violatorjf, MikeSalt, Debbie, Luke, dulridge, martinSE, mmbeller191, ReGet, Mascione, Probedude < FEBRUARY '08

I would like to sincerly thank everyone who supported this thread and my reviews. (donation or not)
P.S. Every dollar is put forward to purchasing more lights/equipment for this thread and nothing else!
 
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n00b question: Ultrafire C3 6 mode?

So I searched and I haven't found anything on this one. DX has them for $21 [link removed - DM51] and I was wondering how it is. I currently have a AA maglite which I stole from my dad, and I think I should probably give back. :whistle: My budget is ~$20 and I want something that is really bright.

I would like high as the first mode/single and AA/AAA. Is this one good?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: n00b question: Ultrafire C3 6 mode?

For the money you can get something brighter.

Akoray Cree Q5-WC 6-Mode Memory 200-Lumen...KD has the newer 3 mode programmable like the pdc below
[link removed - DM51]

PDC AK-16 CREE Q5 3-Mode Flashlight
[link removed - DM51]

MTE C2-70102 Cree Q5 8-Mode LED Flashlight
[link removed - DM51]

Want something fast?
Romisen RC-H3 Cree Q5 LED Flashlight
[link removed - DM51]

larger but still cool
Romisen RC-N3 II Cree Q5 2-Mode LED Flashlight
[link removed - DM51]
 
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Re: n00b question: Ultrafire C3 6 mode?

Welcome to CPF! FYI, next time just edit your original thread instead of starting a new one if you want to add information. It keeps things more organized and the moderators won't have to close your original thread. Good luck finding what you are looking for.
 
Re: n00b question: Ultrafire C3 6 mode?

From what I read, The Ultrafire C2 doesn't like drops. Some have killed theirs with a single drop of a few feet onto carpet.

A bit more info would help with finding the right light.

How much throw?
How much output?
How much runtime?
Multimode?(low, high, strobe, etc.)
Size?

:welcome:
 
Re: n00b question: Ultrafire C3 6 mode?

I'd lean toward the popular Romisen models, preferably from Shiningbeam with Q5's. They're only a few more dollars. The two I have are the RC-N3 and RC-G2, both are impressive for the money.
 
Re: n00b question: Ultrafire C3 6 mode?

Sorry about the double post,

PDC looks overly complex, MTE & Romisens look good.

I'm mainly looking for something really bright that doesn't break/overheat and melt. Modes are great as long as memory/high is first. Size? 1xAA i think. Probably end up putting this in the pocket of the polar fleece I wear every day. Things with extension tubes are good too.

Thanks
 
Re: Looking for a Chunky p60 Host .

Not sure if those two DE lights have integral LEDs or drop ins. Maybe not suitable for a regular drop in?

Bill
 
Re: Looking for a Chunky p60 Host .

Yeah , all my R2's are aluminum foil wrapped now , and they do seem to heatsink better .

So yes the plan was to foil the pill , but I was also looking for a host with more than standard mass , esp as the MC-E will most likely put out a lot more heat , so I would like a host thats nice n chunky .

The 1st one looks like it takes a drop in , but I dont know about the Hugsby G2 .

Matt
 
Re: Looking for a Chunky p60 Host .

If you want a P60 capable light with a lot of meat to it, you would have a hard time beating the Pila GL2. I realize the aesthetics aren't for everyone, but that thing is built like a tank.
 
Re: Looking for a Chunky p60 Host .

I think a really good P60 host is the Surefire 6P. Maybe I'm weird but I think it's probably the best host out there.
 
Re: Looking for a Chunky p60 Host .

I think a really good P60 host is the Surefire 6P. Maybe I'm weird but I think it's probably the best host out there.

I prefer my C3 but in general, I would prefer a SureFire host over another brand.
 
Re: Looking for a Chunky p60 Host .

I think a really good P60 host is the Surefire 6P. Maybe I'm weird but I think it's probably the best host out there.

But this also depends on the module too...Especially regarding chinese modules....For a starting referemce see this

On the other hand if we enter the tinfoil trick indeed the SF is the best and Solarforce the worst (IIRC it has a cylindrical socket)
 
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 9)

Continuation thread
 
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 9)

oh jeez.. impressive work!
your thread never fails to impress me!
 
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 9)

+1 great thread! I look forward to seeing the updated kitchen pics for the K106 and any other reviews that users may have on them. I am still waiting for mine to arrive and should be getting close
 
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 9)

Bessie, did you or anyone ever review the Ultrafire c3 q3 6 mode light? Supposedly different UI than the 5 mode.
 
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 9)

Something ive wondered about. Would it not be better to have the table of lights sorted by their star rating rather than chronological ordering (perhaps with the date it was reviewed next to it)?

As the number of reviews expands, it becomes harder to just glance at the list and see what is rated highly. For instance, to find the highest rated AA light its the RC G2, which is equal for the highest rating but found at the bottom of the list.

Of course with 30 or so in the list its not so bad, but sooner or later it will grow to the point it becomes less obvious to compare.

Also, fwiw, id put the link to part 4 and the review links (the ones titled with the pink font) and the table all together one after the other by moving the pictures under the tables and the links to the previous parts id put at the very top (or perhaps below the update parts).

Just my opinion, dont take it as criticism :D
 
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Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 9)

What WOULD be great is if BB provided us with an excel (I'm guessing it's excel) file with the charts so I can sort them.

Anyway, got my RC-N3 from SB, wonderfully bright, more throwy than the L2D I have. I don't think it's worth the 50% premium just for the Q5 emitter, but it is wort hit for more personal and accountable service, as well as 2 day shipping!

The RC-N3 (single mode I have), does make you appreciate lower power modes though. If you use it in the pitch dark indoors it just blinds you. Makes an excellent thrower for my bike light though.
 
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