Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Light?

[radellaf]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

The Trilight would be a whole lot like three L1s on high-beam. Just bigger and running off cheaper batteries, and less than the price of one L1 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[INRETECH]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

The TriLight uses 3x1w Luxeons for a total light output of
81 Lumens; the light output is nothing short of unbelieveable

Comparison:

PM6:
Technology: xenon lamp
Brightness: 108 lumens (White)
Battery: 2x3v lithium batteries
Run time: 1.25 hrs
Bulb life: 200 hrs +

TriLight:
Technology: 3x1w Luxeon LEDs
Brightness: 81 Lumens (Red)
Battery: 3x1.5v D-cells
Run time: 16hrs
Bulb life: 100k hrs +

You will need a RED filter for the PM6 which will drastically cut down the brightness of the Incandescent bulb, whereas the TriLight puts out all of its energy in the desired RED Color

 

[Atomic6]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

[ QUOTE ]
INRETECH said:
The TriLight uses 3x1w Luxeons for a total light output of
81 Lumens; the light output is nothing short of unbelieveable[ QUOTE ]


I believe it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ QUOTE ]
Comparison:

You will need a RED filter for the PM6 which will drastically cut down the brightness of the Incandescent bulb, whereas the TriLight puts out all of its energy in the desired RED Color[ QUOTE ]


Uh-have you ever seen what McGizmo does to PM6 flashlights? OMG they are transformed into a mighty lighty by golly. And they contain zero incandescent bulbs when he is done with them./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Thank you very much for the information. Question: the tri-light is a mod that I drop into another light? I didn't see a stand alone Trilight for sale. Will the Trilight fit a PM6?


This calls for a shootout:

Red Trilight vs Red Pm6 Mcmodule. Who has beamshots and lux readings on these two fine lights? Probably no one.

 

[INRETECH]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

The TriLight is designed only for the Maglite 3D (current production only, serial numbers starting with "D" )

Here are some reviews:

http://flashlightreviews1.home.att.net/reviews/inretech_trilight.htm

http://www.ledmuseum.org/trilight.htm

The Trilight adapter is being sold on our webpage, you select the color (RED), and if you supply the flashlight - select case color "NONE"

Even in a VERY bright building, you do not want to look at your hand when lit up by a Trilight

When we display our products at shows, we keep the RED TriLight out of reach of passing kids/teenagers; its just too bright to be "played with"

 

[The_LED_Museum]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

The only red LS product I have is a McLux Black Widow.
It uses a McFlood reflector though, so while the beam is as smooth as a baby's toliet muscle, it probably can't throw to 80 feet.

 

[BentHeadTX]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

I built a red LS in a Mag 2D,
With the one watt resistor, it punched out 475mA with fresh D cell batteries....after several hours is was humming along at 300mA. That thing sure can throw the red photons out there, the Mag reflector helped.
The red luxeons are lower in Vf than white ones, somewere around 2.7V so you need that resistor to drive it from two D cells. My buddy who wanted one really likes it.

 

[radellaf]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

Is there such a thing as a red 5W?

 

[Rothrandir]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

nope /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[INRETECH]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

LEDs become more eff. on the longer wavelengths, ie Red & IR
There isn't any need for a 5w RED

As I stated before - even in a brightly lit building - you don't want to look at your hand when lit up with the TriLight

 

[radellaf]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

I can think of two uses. Traffic signals, rather than using 50 or more 5mm LEDs. And, the 5W would focus better. But, yeah, you have to need a hell of a lot of red light.

 

[INRETECH]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

They are currently using about 100 5mm LEDs in the traffic light, RED 5mm LEDs are VERY cheap; using 1w Luxeons they would use approx 5

Using a lot of 5mm LEDs is much more eff and better pattern than using fews LEDs for a even light output, the LED version runs 12w, Portland has changed almost all of its signals RED/GREEN (not yellow yet) to LED

 

[Double_A]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

A6-

Let us know how things work out for you with respect to your needs. I'm very curous if you end up being satisfied.


GregR

 

[Atomic6]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

OK-Still working up the nerve to get a quote on a mod. I'll post back when I get a light. I'll compare it to a E2ePlus with red filter.

 

[radellaf]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

A6 - What kind of Mod are you thinking of, if you don't mind saying? 3 red luxeons with 2" reflectors each?

Inretech - I've twice heard that 5mm are more efficient than luxeons but the data sheets IIRC argue otherwise...and my MadMax pulling 180mA is a hell of a lot brighter than my Opalec at the same current. A 5W at low current seems even more efficient.
I can sure believe 5mm are cheaper, though, especially when you want a diffuse source to begin with.
Around here they're doing all three heads with LEDs, it's pretty neat although I think the green/teal should have an automatic dim-at-night feature.

Anyway, I still maintain there would be applications for a 5W red luxeon. A red L4 if nothing else would be smaller than a Trilight. 'course if I could add to the L4 I'd add a dim mode before other colors...

 

[Atomic6]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

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radellaf said:
A6 - What kind of Mod are you thinking of, if you don't mind saying? 3 red luxeons with 2" reflectors each?

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Hmmm. Dunno. I am considering the PM6 Mc Module and the TriLight. I have not gotten down to brass tacks on these lights yet. I am trying to beat a light that a coworker witnessed the splendor of recently. So still trying to ID that other light first-then I'll give a modder a shot so I can have a better one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

So what is the "3 red luxeons with 2 inch reflectors" machine of which you speak? Sound interesting....

 

[Hemingray]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

I've been direct driving red and amber 1W Star/Os in 2D yellow plastic "industrial" flashlites with no problems (yet). Nice and bright, They get warm but not really hot. I just use a small heatsink about 1" X 1.5" , which was originally intended to cool a TO-220 size regulator like a 7805 or LM317.

The beastliest red LED light I have is a 12" dia red traffic signal that I found on E-bay a few years ago, it has 720 red
HP 5mm LEDs, it is *extremely* bright and even throws some radiant heat for a short distance. It uses a current-limited voltage doubler circuit and is rated for 85-135 VAC input.

I have a couple other red LED 12" dia traffic signals, but this one is far brighter than the other two. Even from about 40 feet away, it is painful to look directly into it.

/ed B in NH

 

[radellaf]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

I don't know of such a beast, but was conjecturing that if you wanted more red light than an L1 or red EverLED, and since there are no 5W, the only answer would be a Trilight-like device that used something to get a narrower beam than the NX05s. Maybe Elektrolumens could make a triple luxeon with his long-throw 30mm optics.

 

[LED-FX]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

Seen a prototype LED par can that used a lot of red LS`s.

According to the meter output was greater than a 1KW Par lamp with a primary red filter.

Adam

 

[IsaacHayes]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

ElektroLumen's tristar flashlight has interchangable luxeon disks that you can put different colored luxeons in. You can for instance swap out the 3x1w whites with 3W's when they come out or a puck of red ones. I don't think he has the modules ready yet, but contact him I'm sure he'd make one up for you. He made a red-orange one and said it was very very bright!

 

[Atomic6]

Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh

OK Here is what is going down:

1) McGizmo is making a PM6 Mod with DB400 and some kind of RED LED.

2) Mike at INRETECH is sending a RED TriLight.

3) I have an SF E2ePlus (This is NASCAR) with a RED SF Beam Filter. This has a P-61 LA.

So when I get them all side-by-side I will perform a shootout and take some beam shots. I don't own a meter (yet).

I will also let a few co-workers take a gander at all three and report their comments as well.

Any more contenders? Bring em on!