Can the Lunasol 20 be ordered w/o the H3 vial installed?

[seery]

Greetings.

Considering a LS20 and have a question. Although it's not a deal breaker,
it does carry significant weight in the thought/decision process.

Can the LS20 be ordered (directly from Don) w/o the H3 vial installed?

Surely don't mind an empty milled slot, but definitely would prefer a LS20
w/o the tritium, AND most definitely do not want the hassle of removing it.

Tried a search and came up empty. My apologies if the answer is obvious
and over looked on my part.

Thanks for the help.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Seery, to each his own, but the H3 is the coolest!

You must be doin some covert ops...

Either that or you dont want beta particles near your package.

 

[McGizmo]

Seery,
I don't have any pistons on hand sans the H3 but I can put one in the oven and heat up the Norland 61 and remove a vial from one if that is your preference. You will have the milled slot as you have noted.

 

[TranquillityBase]

Sorry in advance for OT question

How hot and how long to soften the NOA 61?

Thanks,
Scott

 

[McGizmo]

Scott,
I don't know what the ideal is. I set my electronic furnace to 175F and leave the piston in there until the furnace has reached the temp. I can then use a dental pic to work away at the Norland and ultimately get under the vial and pry it up; most often without breaking the vial. Boiling water will also work.

 

[TranquillityBase]

Excellent!

I tried the soaking in acetone thing...won't touch NOA 61:sigh:

Boiling water sounds like a great route, I'll have to give that a try.

Thanks for the tip Don:twothumbs

Scott

 

[seery]

Either that or you dont want beta particles near your package.

I don't have any pistons on hand sans the H3 but I can put one in the oven and heat up the Norland 61 and remove a vial from one if that is your preference.

Assuming the result is clean and without compromise to the piston, the answer is as I was hoping. :thanks: Don.

 

[Roccomo]

+1 for no H3.

 

[dmdrewitt]

I have a spare piston without a H3 milled slot that I am willing to sell. It is not titanium, it was one that is supplied with the Al PD's, so I think it is nickel plated brass (from memory).

 

[RocketTomato]

+1 for no H3.

I am curious. Why do you prefer no tritium vial?

The easiest way to remove the vials is to use Methylene Chloride (a.k.a. Dichloromethane). You can get some at your local hardware store in the guise of Acrylic Adhesive. Make sure that the ingredient listing on the back of the bottle or can lists methylene chloride as one of the first ingredients. Get a small glass container, pour in the methylene chloride and let the butt end of the piston soak in it overnight.

 

[Roccomo]

I am curious. Why do you prefer no tritium vial?

Rocket,

I just think that this:

looks way better than this:

Even though I like the function of the H3.

 

[seery]

I am curious. Why do you prefer no tritium vial?

Nothing more than simply not having a need or desire for the tritium.

Dropped my lights in the woods, ponds, on the trail, in creeks, horse stalls, and around campfires to name a few.
As Murphy would have it, seems the light always ends up under leaves, between rocks, in tall grass, bedding, muck,
or whatever.

Most of the times the lights were on when dropped, making them easy to spot. Times they weren't, I can honestly
say (given the conditions) that a tritium vial in the tail wouldn't have helped.

Close to the bed every night is a rifle, handgun, shotgun, Storm whistle, two flashlights, land line phone, and a cell
phone. It's proper training and planning, not tritium locators, that allow me to quickly and quietly locate any or all of
these necessities in complete darkness.

Surely won't disagree there could be those times a little tritium in the tail would help, but the other 98% of the time
I personally find it annoying.

YMMV.

 

[precisionworks]

My PD-S (same piston as the LS20) rides in the right pocket of my Carhartt bibs, which puts the trit about 12" below eye level. When walking the dogs during darkness, the green glow is reassuring & soothing - if that makes any sense:thinking:
Thinking about a pair of trits next to the SunDrop emitter, for no particular reason.

Boiling water will also work.

The three trits in my Glock sights are dimmer than dim, and I'm thinking about boiling them out. Anyone ever replaced these at home?

 

[seery]

The three trits in my Glock sights are dimmer than dim, and I'm thinking about boiling them out. Anyone ever replaced these at home?

If you end up replacing them, take a look at Scott Warren's tactical sights (assuming you've been running the Mepros,
Trijicons, 24/7's, or the like). Scott is a great guy, great shooter, and has years of experience in the FBI.

Scott gave me a set at the PA Summer Blast 4-5 years ago (mine are actually the Warren/Sevigney variation), at the
time I was practicing 2500+ rounds a week (plus 2 matches) and it only took two weeks to really notice the difference.
Since the late 80's, I had experimented with every sight made and had settled on Heinie's. After realizing the effects
that could be realized with Scott's design, everything has since been Warren/rear and Dawson/front.

They have since become "the" sight of choice for IDPA, IPSC, 3-gun, multi-gun shooters, as well as many on the 2-way
range. The sight picture allows amazing acquisitions and transitions. They can be had it the standard tactical version
or competition version.

 

[RocketTomato]

Nothing more than simply not having a need or desire for the tritium.

Dropped my lights in the woods, ponds, on the trail, in creeks, horse stalls, and around campfires to name a few.
As Murphy would have it, seems the light always ends up under leaves, between rocks, in tall grass, bedding, muck,
or whatever.

Most of the times the lights were on when dropped, making them easy to spot. Times they weren't, I can honestly
say (given the conditions) that a tritium vial in the tail wouldn't have helped.

Close to the bed every night is a rifle, handgun, shotgun, Storm whistle, two flashlights, land line phone, and a cell
phone. It's proper training and planning, not tritium locators, that allow me to quickly and quietly locate any or all of
these necessities in complete darkness.

Surely won't disagree there could be those times a little tritium in the tail would help, but the other 98% of the time
I personally find it annoying.

YMMV.

Some very good points. I basically use the trits to help me identify which light I want to grab in the dark. Green trit= LS 20, White trit= PD-S

I learned the advantage of keeping a land line with 9/11. I have family that lives and works in NYC and it was nigh impossible for days to reach them via cell phones. The land line was the only way to keep in touch.

 

[AvidHiker]

As far as removing Norland 61, heat is most certainly the way to go - very cleanly removes all residue. A household oven can do the job just fine. Toxic solvents should only be a last resort, IMO.

As far as the utility of tritium markers... I find them indispensible for some of the reasons mentioned - like identifying a particular light on a nightstand in total darkness (or any light when the power goes out!). Obviously useless for finding lights lost in grass or leaves, but that's not the really what they're intended for. Plus, in my experience, most people really like the look.