Carclo optics upgrade for my wearable Rebel photography light

jeffosborne

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Inspired by a recent post regarding various optics made for the Rebel LED, I purchased a few that looked promising. I chose parts with wider angle beams in order to modify one of my Rebel LED lights that I use for photography. From Future Electronics I ordered the Carclo 10414, $1.01 each, the Dialite OPC1-1-WIDE, $1.03 each, and the Fraen FLP-W4-RE-HRF at $2.00 each, all shown below. They are all 40 degree beam angle optical lenses, and all about 85% efficient.
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My opinion of the collimators used in some of the flashlights I own has been mixed. Of course those collimators are spots, not wide angle, but they often have undesirable artifacts in the beam, with rings or jagged edges. Fortunately, all the samples I tried have very smooth dispersion, and soft edges! The Carclo and Dialite parts have a frosted look to the top surface, which helps to smooth the beam no doubt.

Seeing that the tiny Carclo part would mount easily to one of my existing lights, I went to work.

This light has three 80 lumen per watt neutral white LEDs, mounted to a light weight heat sink that is 1.75 x 1.75 x .5". The spacers at the corners support a protective cover made of plexiglass. There is no driver on board, just the 3 LEDS wired in series, and a 4' cord that terminates with a coaxial type plug. I use the light with one of three 10.8 volt belt-clip battery packs that have built-in regulators.
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The back side of the light has a super magnet embedded and epoxyed in the fins. This magnet attaches the light to a pin-on button that I wear on my shirt. I wear the button kind of high and to my left on the shirt, for best use with the camera in my right hand. I also have mic stand and light stand mounts for the magnet, for desktop and studio use.
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At 850ma drive current, the light gives about 450 lumens, and is fine as a fill-in for low light situations. But the Rebel's beam angle is a wide 140 degrees, and often I want more light on my subject. With the lenses added I can have more light, with a narrowed beam angle of course. These optics all have an 85% efficiency rating, so I do loose some light to the lens itself.

To mount them to my light, I applied a tiny amount of epoxy to the bottoms of each leg, aligning the lens to the center of the LED as best I could. Here's a black and white photo of the optics in place:
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This is the light with current set to 100ma, and camera exposure forced very low. The center LED was a warmer bin, the warmest neutral white that Phillips offers. But the combined light blends nicely.
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The completed light with protective plexiglass cover and nylon hold down screws:
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Here is one of the Li-Ion battery packs I use with this and other lights. It has 3 switched battery outputs, and one regulated output with a center-off toggle switch that selects 100ma, 350ma, or 850ma current levels. A heavy duty belt clip is riveted to the back side. It is a Pac-tec enclosure and has three 18650 batteries.
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These before and after beam shots of the light tell the story of the Carclo optics. In both photographs, the light is 12" away from the white 32 x 40" matte board.
Before installation of the lenses:
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After installing the optics:
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The very soft edge of the beam will give a pleasant effect for photos. This is a welcome addition to my other non-focused lights for photography. I will strive to get some real world sample photos with the modified light and post them soon.

Jeff


 
Cool project, makes me want to break out my rebels and start playing with them again... got too many projects half done already though! LOL

I like the battery pack you made, very clean looking! Can't wait to see what you come up with next. :popcorn:
 
Thanks for the good reviews, jason 77 and HarryN! The high-CRI Rebels are the bomb for photography. I am preparing to post my new light, which combines 12 high CRI neutral whites with 2 red and 1 cyan LED to further increase the CRI:

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Output is about 2500 lumens, I bounce it into an umbrella:

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I have lots of photos of the build, and will post them soon.

Cheers,
Jeff
 
Hi Jeff, I looked again at the colors shown in your pics - very nice.

For various reasons, I tend to take my "snapshots" on my cell phone, and my better pictures using 35mm film. I know it sounds a bit odd, but I like the ultra simplicity of it, and the high bit depth of the scanner / pro film combo. (as well as being able to use my existing cameras)

I wondered if you had any comments on using the 4000K rebels with various films such as Porta or Ultra color - or are you more of a straight digital photographer?

Did you add the 2 extra colors for saturation on the digital RGB sensors?

Thanks

Harry
 
Thanks for the shout, LukeA!
Harry, I gave up my liquid darkroom a few years ago, so I am shooting only digital now. A Canon T1i currently. The reason for the 2 red and 1 cyan LED's in my new light is to fill in the deficiencies in the spectrum. The chart below shows the new high-CRI LED on the top, and the standard neutral-white LED on the bottom. Both have a serious dip at about 480nm, and the cyan fills this in at about 500nm. The red is certainly better on the high-CRI part, but still lacking. The red LEDs fill in at about 645nm.
Plus, I took forum member jtr1962's advice on these additional LED's. I tip my hat to his expertise!
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Skin tones, for example, look much richer with the additional red. More to come!
Jeff
 
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Hey Jeff have you ever encountered the problem I just recently came across with soldering wires to the tops of the rebels, I just ruined a 180lumen rebel when after filing off the gel coating and soldering wires to the top of the rebel one of the wires broke loose taking with it the copper lead going into the actual LED die. I have had this happen before a while ago but dismissed it as a fluke.

Makes me scared to use my rebels now!:eek:
 
Yes, when we solder to the top of the Rebel, we are outside of the manufacturer's intentions for the product. And those little traces are tiny.

I will say that I use an Xacto knife to carefully scrape the coating off the traces on the top of the Rebel. It could be that a file would take some copper with it, making it weaker. Also I use a very light wire, 28 gauge solid. And then I keep that wire short, or couple it to a larger gauge wire if I need to go more than a few inches.

So what is your project that you were working on when disaster struck? My latest Rebel solder job was replacing a Cree XPE in a Aurora single-AA flashlight from DX. The neutral white in a flashlight looks SO good!

Cheers,
jeff
 
Yes, when we solder to the top of the Rebel, we are outside of the manufacturer's intentions for the product. And those little traces are tiny.

I will say that I use an Xacto knife to carefully scrape the coating off the traces on the top of the Rebel. It could be that a file would take some copper with it, making it weaker. Also I use a very light wire, 28 gauge solid. And then I keep that wire short, or couple it to a larger gauge wire if I need to go more than a few inches.

So what is your project that you were working on when disaster struck? My latest Rebel solder job was replacing a Cree XPE in a Aurora single-AA flashlight from DX. The neutral white in a flashlight looks SO good!

Cheers,
jeff

ah ok I will try the xacto knife trick next time as I probably did file off too much of the contact pad....

the second light in this tread is what I was trying to use the rebel for... used a warm white rebel instead... turned out really good I think..
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=278944
 
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