[Computer security] Foxit, Internet Explorer, Sun Java, and... routers!

mechBgon

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All rightie then. If you use Foxit Reader, update to the latest version, because (surprise) the bad guys are now exploiting vulnerabilities in older versions of Foxit Reader. Click here for updates. If you use Adobe Reader instead, update that too.


If you use Internet Explorer on WinXP or Vista, I suggest updating to IE8. IE8 has some new security features, including pretty good filtering against malware, and on Vista systems, IE8 also has its Data Execution Prevention feature enabled by default. In fact, even if you don't normally use IE for anything, I'd suggest installing IE8 anyway.


If you have Sun Java Runtime installed, update it to JRE 6 Update 13, available at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp, to fix some security vulnerabilities. Java is pretty widespread, and is installed by default on many factory-built computers, so you might have it whether you realize it or not... check your installed software. If you have no known use for Java, I suggest uninstalling it until you do.


Lastly, there's some buzz about attacks on routers. Many people have a router, sitting between their modem and their computer(s). Routers let you split your Internet connection among many computers, and they serve as a "bodyguard" against attacks and probes from computers on the Internet. Overall, they're a good thing to have.

But routers can sometimes be attacked and subverted. So can modems. One of the main problems is that they come from the factory with a publicly-known password :ohgeez: Simple solution: change the password to something else. Add a symbol and/or a numeral to the password, so it'll withstand a "dictionary" attack.

I have an all-in-one "gateway" device that's both a modem, and sort of a router too Log into it and give it a new, strong password.

I also have a separate router, not just a modem/gateway box Then you should log into both devices (your gateway/modem and your router) and give each of them a new, strong password.

My modem doesn't seem to be configurable Some modems aren't configurable, so if you can't get into the modem, just configure your router.

OK, how do I set a new password? Home routers and modems are configured by using a Web browser. Generally, the device that your computer is currently connected to will be accessible at http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 and will present you with a username/password prompt. A quick Google for "default password your brand & model of device" should tell you what to use.

Once you've logged onto your device, there should be a link for setting the password... explore the menu system a little, if necessary. The pictures below show my two devices, a crummy ActionTEC DSL gateway/modem, and a Netgear RP614 router.

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Above: my modem's password can be set here...

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Above: ...and my router's password can be set here.

While you're logged into each device, I suggest disabling Universal Plug 'n Play (UPnP) if it happens to be enabled (unless you actually use UPnP). This is another feature that the bad guys sometimes exploit.

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Above: making sure UPnP is disabled on my router.

If your devices have wireless access features, then either enable encryption on your wireless, or disable wireless altogether if you don't actually need it, so unauthorized computers can't connect to your wireless.

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Above: making sure my modem's wireless is disabled, or at least using encryption (WPA2 is best, followed by WPA and then WEP... use the best one that all your computers can handle). If my router had wireless features, I would also check my router in the same way.

I have both a router and a gateway/modem, but I only seem to be able to log into the router. How do I get to the modem?

One option is to connect a computer directly to the modem, bypassing the router, and then visit http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 as the case may be. Then you can do the necessary configuration directly. Make sure your computer's firewall is fully enabled, or that the modem is disconnected from its Internet cable, so the computer cannot be attacked while you're doing this.

Personally, I prefer to change the addresses that the router uses to communicate with my computers, so I can access either the modem or the router at any time. I use the LAN IP address settings shown below, and can log into my router at http://10.0.0.1 and my modem/gateway at http://192.168.0.1. If you decide to make this change, you may need to take an additional step to get your computer to use a 10.0.0.x address... restarting the computer would be one simple, no-brainer method.

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How are routers attacked, anyway? Historically, I believe the most popular method is an "inside attack" that is performed by exploiting your computer's Flash Player and making it run a scripted sequence that reprograms your router's DNS settings. The result is that your computers can be transparently redirected to faked websites that steal your log-in information (PayPal, for example). These attacks are platform-independent, so this is one of the reasons to keep your Flash Player and other browser add-ons (QuickTime, Adobe Reader, Foxit Reader, Sun Java, RealPlayer, WinAmp, etc) up-to-date regardless of your operating system of choice.

The current buzz is regarding specific families of DSL gateway/router/modem boxes that can be subverted from "outside" under some circumstances, and used to form a botnet without the owner's knowledge. More info is available at http://dronebl.org/blog/8 if you're interested in this particular example.
 
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Sheesh! Must be a lot of money in being bad. I'm reminded of Donald Sutherland in Animal House when he's being an English teacher: (as he takes a bite of an apple) "Is Milton trying to tell us that being bad is more fun than being good?"

As usual MechB, thanks for the heads-up.
 
Good tips I just got the newest JRE the other day but had no idea about my beloved FoxIt reader...
 
Good to hear it was useful information :tinfoil:

Sheesh! Must be a lot of money in being bad.

Exactly, you've put your finger on the issue. At this point, there is more money involved in malware and computer/information crime, than there is in the illegal-drug trade. Worldwide.

I think we can expect decades of seesaw battles between the good guys and the bad guys. Many of you have a contingency plan for natural disasters, and home invasions, and maybe even zombie outbreaks :grin2:, and maybe you can be locked & loaded when the bad guys try to exploit your computers and networks too :candle:
 
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I tried IE7 when it first was released publically, and it didn't work out well at all. XP 32-bit, latest SP. Will IE8 be any better? :crazy:
 
I tried IE7 when it first was released publically, and it didn't work out well at all. XP 32-bit, latest SP. Will IE8 be any better? :crazy:

I haven't heard any major uproar over the final version of IE8 yet (the betas were a different story), but then again, I didn't hear any major uproar over IE7 either :thinking: You can always try IE8 and uninstall it if you have show-stopping problems. In your Add/Remove Programs list, it'll be present as an update named "Windows Internet Explorer 8."

One of the benefits of installing either IE7 or IE8 is what's called "ActiveX opt-in." That means no ActiveX add-ons on your computer will work in Internet Explorer unless you OK them yourself. For a real-world example, if you happened to have a Hewlett-Packard system with a massively-vulnerable HP ActiveX gizmo pre-installed, and something tried to exploit that behind your back, using Internet Explorer, ActiveX opt-in means it wouldn't work without your active cooperation. This is why, even if you nevar use teh eebil blue e yourself, you should have version 7 or 8 of teh eebil blue e on your Windows XP or Vista system, not version 6 :grin2: I sincerely wish you could have IE7 or IE8 on Win2000 too, but alas, it is not possible.


That's one example, and I can think of others, so my advice would be to give the latest version a try. You can always back out if you don't like it.
 
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About the time I forget to check for various updates to keep current, you are here making another useful post. Great resource on the router setup.

Many thanks for all your contributions!:thumbsup:
 
You're welcome! :) It's hard to keep on top of them all sometimes... I seldom miss having 70 computers to maintain. Four bicycles isn't always easy either, but bicycle security tends to be simpler :grin2:
 
(paranoid mode on) I'm wondering why the java standalone update still wanted to access the Internet and why when I told it to NOT have auto updates it still tried to insert that updater in my startup file and installed the updater into memory immediately. It actually tried to put 4 new things in startup and I allowed one. While I trust the company that writes java I don't trust things that try to do an end run around options you choose during install by ignoring your choices.
BTW thanks for your reminders on these programs. I take my computer security seriously as a former computer and network specialist (I had 13,000 computers to deal with - of course I had some help). I know java has been a vulnerability much of the time. I don't see it becoming problem free anytime soon despite updates as someone will just find a new way to persuade it to do dirty deeds. But with that update it should be safe for a couple hours anyway :lolsign:

Do you follow Steve Gibson's security info? He's an machine language era programmer that's taken on Internet security. Anyone that can write programs in machine language like he has written has my respect. Link
 
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(paranoid mode on) I'm wondering why the java standalone update still wanted to access the Internet and why when I told it to NOT have auto updates it still tried to insert that updater in my startup file and installed the updater into memory immediately. It actually tried to put 4 new things in startup and I allowed one.

Oh, they're only joking when they ask for your permission. ;)

What's Microsoft's new ad ? "It's everyone's business." ??? :devil:
 
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Oh, they're only joking when they ask for your permission. ;)

What's Microsoft's new ad ? "It's everyone's business." ??? :devil:

:laughing: Yep - that's just one more thing pushing people over to Linux. One of my favorite lately is Puppy Linux running from a Flash drive that is set up in a special way so it's almost like it's running off a CD - nothing can be saved or changed and it always reboots up the same as before. I'd probably set up a custom WinXP on a flash drive but MS seems to think that's not okay and they have disabled the ability to install XP to a flash drive. I tried getting around that a few times but no luck. Bart PE (for those who know what that is) is not worth the trouble IMO.
 
:laughing: Yep - that's just one more thing pushing people over to Linux.

Just make sure you're actually securing it, that's all I would ask :thumbsup: Note that the routers being exploited remotely to form a botnet are running Linux, but in a bad configuration that leaves them exploitable.

There's a generalized security guide for Linux at http://www.getsafeonline.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=1166 for those so inclined.

nothing can be saved or changed and it always reboots up the same as before. I'd probably set up a custom WinXP on a flash drive but MS seems to think that's not okay and they have disabled the ability to install XP to a flash drive.

If your main goal was to make WinXP so it always reboots the same as before, just use Microsoft SteadyState, which is a freebie.
 
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Yep - that's just one more thing pushing people over to Linux

A bit ironic considering most Routers and Firewalls that are being exploited are running embedded Linux. :shakehead They ain't running XP dude.

If 70% of home Windows users..at least those not using Vista which is most of them, we're forced to surf with non-Admin accounts the entire Malware/Spyware industry would be out of business in a month.

And I will persist in my claim that software firewalls accomplish *nothing* other than contributing a false sense of security.

FYI - GRC.Com is *not* a well regarded web site in terms of security advice.
 
no comment. However, users are having problems with these DNS changers and the router issues. One more case of "user education needed".

Win7 should bring improvements.

Bret
 
It's useful to also make sure that any routers have updated firmware. I also seem to recall some of the routers are being compromised by remote access. If you never access your router settings from outside your internal network it may help to disable that remote access administration, assuming your hardware allows it. That obviously doesn't do anything if the malware is designed to compromise an internal system first to use for access to the router. Also recall that with a wireless system any computer that connects using it is "internal" even if it's in the car parked outside your house or in a neighbors house. If you aren't using remote administration though, it makes sense to shut down the attack vector.

Mech's mentioned it before but not in this post, if you are on a windows system check out Secunia Personal Software Inspector (PSI). It's a great tool to keep up with security patches. I usually beat his posts and am patched because it throws a flag at me showing insecure software. Unless you are exceptionally motivated, detail oriented, and careful it will probably find programs with unpatched security flaws the first time it scans a home system.
 
Well I tried IE8 for a few days and decided to go back to my old IE7, lucky for me I made an Acronis image of my whole drive before the update in case I didn't like it or something horrible happened, glad I did!

This new IE8 is very slow!!!! it opened my default Yahoo.com homepage in about 40 seconds!!!! Major WTF! the time to surf other sites was about the same, but if i decided to open a site on a different tab, the wait time begins, about 30-40 seconds!

On IE7 it opens the browser and displays my homepage in under 4 seconds! and browse on new tab is about 3 seconds! Guess I won't be upgrading until they get a performance patch or something.

Dissapointed!
AlexGT
 
Well I tried IE8 for a few days and decided to go back to my old IE7, lucky for me I made an Acronis image of my whole drive before the update in case I didn't like it or something horrible happened, glad I did!

This new IE8 is very slow!!!! it opened my default Yahoo.com homepage in about 40 seconds!!!! Major WTF! the time to surf other sites was about the same, but if i decided to open a site on a different tab, the wait time begins, about 30-40 seconds!

That's unusual. Yeah, I'd be unhappy too, if IE8 loaded pages slowly like that for me, but I haven't encountered that problem on any of the systems I upgraded. If you try it again, try disabling the Suggested Sites feature, if you didn't already do that the first time.
 
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