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Thank you Lion. Yes this study appears to mention UVA (longwave black light) as an antimicrobial treatment. There is a company in the US that has been marketing longwave UV as an external antimicrobial agent for some, but not all, bacteria. I didn't see anything in there about antiviral efficacy though.

On a related note, here's what happened when a contractor mistakenly installed UVC germicidal lamps in a public venue because someone thought it looked cool...
 

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Again, context is a beautiful thing.
If you saw the actual press conference then you can understand what was taking place. The president posed a hypothetical. Nothing more, nothing less. If you did not see the entire conversation that began with a fellow explaining what happens when sunlight hits the virus…… he was posing a hypothetical additional procedure to a procedure called "pathogen inactivation".
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Yes context.
I did see that actual press conference, and he sounded like a fool, and when he looked at Dr Birx for confirmation that it is a good idea, she appeared to be very uncomfortable with the suggestion. Once he perceived that she was not going to give him the answer he was looking for, he told her, that maybe it is a good idea to look into.

I'll repeat myself, at a later briefing he said that he was being sarcastic.
No he wasn't!
And later he changed his position again to defending his original statement.

There are times that he is indefensible.

Many of his supporters have stated in the past that his twitter account should be taken away.
Some are now saying that he should stay out of the briefings, except for cursory appearances, and allow his medical experts take center stage.

It's hard to disagree.
 
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Antimicrobial = antiviral (like antiflashlight = antiSurefire).

A microbe is just a micro-organism (incl both microscopic and ultramicroscopic).

Viruses are the smallest of all the microbes... :)

Also, UVA is the safest of the three types. Still harmful to body, but so is chemotherapy. Again, I'm not making any claim about efficacy of Healight (yet). Just confirming its a real product and was known to scientific community prior to the briefing.
 
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So let's just say for example, my very outspoken, shoot from the hip governor posed a hypothetical that perhaps spraying lysol in the air and walking into the woft might cure the common cold, but then says "I'm no doctor but what if"………should I suppose at that point he was suggesting I snort Lysol?

C'mon people.……is anybody with a half a grain of sense going to shoot up Lysol now?
What if Obama had said that? Half the press would be saying "oh what a genious he is". The other half "Obama wants people to drink Lysol with their frozen pizza."

Ok, for an even more ridiculous scenario, let's say the president is told by an expert that there are less wrecks on roads in Japan than the US and the president says "I wonder if it has anything do do with driving on the left side of the yellow line, perhaps we should study that"……is he in fact saying everybody should start driving on the wrong side of the road?

Lighten up.
 
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So let's just say for example, my very outspoken, shoot from the hip governor posed a hypothetical that perhaps spraying lysol in the air and walking into the woft might cure the common cold, but then says "I'm no doctor but what if"………should I suppose at that point he was suggesting I snort Lysol?

C'mon people.……is anybody with a half a grain of sense going to shoot up Lysol now?
What if Obama had said that? Half the press would be saying "oh what a genious he is". The other half "Obama wants people to drink Lysol with their frozen pizza."

Ok, for an even more ridiculous scenario, let's say the president is told by an expert that there are less wrecks on roads in Japan than the US and the president says "I wonder if it has anything do do with driving on the left side of the yellow line, perhaps we should study that"……is he in fact saying everybody should start driving on the wrong side of the road?

Lighten up.
By proposing the absurd, you prove my point... there are times that he is indefensible.

IMO there are times that he should just keep his mouth shut.
 

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Anyone getting the days mixed up? It's Sunday already, again.
LOL... yeah looking at the paper on the wall calendar doesn't help, I have to look at my phone or the date on my computer.

I've been out of work for six weeks, so the upcoming weather report is more important than the day of the week. :confused:

Isn't there a smiley for crazy?
 

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Everybody here who has never had their alligator mouth over ride their canary brain raise your hand…………




No one?

Here's what the man said……

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The smart play with coronavirus (and other hard problems) is to consider lots of ways to win to minimize your chance of losing, especially since experts are often wrong. Don't rule out an idea because it clashes with your preferences.
 
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Everybody here who has never had their alligator mouth over ride their canary brain raise your hand…………


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So he has an alligator mouth and a canary brain?

That's not much of a defense. :whistle:
:nana:

Please don't get upset with me. There are times that he is indefensible. There's nothing wrong with being a supporter, but there are times that supporters just have to lick their wounds, and move on.
 

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For work, the last 2 months my life has been the same as it has been for years, but busier. I work in the humanitarian department for my church and we have been busy donating masks and food steady. I am thankful to be working but am starting to burn out a bit with every day but Sunday being the same.

My family has had their life turned upside down like everyone else so that's where it's interesting...my life same, theirs is messed up.

I don't shop much so the restricted shopping aspect doesn't affect me much.

My hat goes off to those in the front lines in health care, unappreciated but those in leadership for the most part. I have my own thoughts on this planned-demic but that's another topic.
 

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So he has an alligator mouth and a canary brain?

That's not much of a defense. :whistle:
:nana:

Please don't get upset with me. There are times that he is indefensible. There's nothing wrong with being a supporter, but there are times that supporters just have to lick their wounds, and move on.

As I said "he who has not raise your hand"
I did not notice you raising yours……

We have all said goofy stuff from time time time. Yet how many have a media that tries their best to do everything they can to take you down day after day? As I said in a previous post I knew when he said it he was going to pay a heavy price. But lick my wounds? I wasn't wounded.
 

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Anyone getting the days mixed up? It's Sunday already, again.
Not really, still fortunately working normal hours so it’s easy to keep track of the day. However, to me, the Monthly increments are flying by. It’s already May next weekend. The last three months have been a blur.
 

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As I said "he who has not raise your hand"
I did not notice you raising yours……

:Chuckle: I don't consider myself as having a canary brain, so the question/comment doesn't apply.
However the question as raised did remind me of
John 8:7 Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Clever. How does one respond to that?

We have all said goofy stuff from time time time. Yet how many have a media that tries their best to do everything they can to take you down day after day? As I said in a previous post I knew when he said it he was going to pay a heavy price. But lick my wounds? I wasn't wounded.
Absolutely! I do sometimes have a problem with engaging my mouth before my brain. Sometimes I can't take it back, sometimes trying to, just makes it worse. I can at times apologize.

Once upon a time, back when the dinosaurs still roamed the Earth, I was in a College Assembly being addressed by the College President during a weekly address. I was an upper class-man, and he made a ludicrous statement that I just couldn't let pass. I didn't want the underclass men think that was true. I raised my hand to point out his error. When he called on me, I stammered (it dawned on me, that I was about to correct the President in front of the entire student body). I had already started my sentence, and mid sentence, I couldn't think of a graceful way out. It went something like this: "You said, well, I think you said, well, I thought you said, what I think you meant to say..." He cut me off, and made fun of me. In front of the entire school.

I learned: Say what you mean, and mean what you say, or say nothing at all.

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While in College, each of us had to give a 5 minute speech on some health issue.
The doctor explained that we only had so many classes left, and therefore a limited amount of time for each of us (100) to give a speech.
We really need to get started, is anyone prepared?

I looked around, and figured, what the heck! I raised my hand.
Some of my brother students gave me a critical review.
The doctor gave me an "A" and said I was the "Best extemporaneous speaker she ever met"
LOL... I had to look that up. :)

I've lectured to colleagues, and given presentations, I've testified in court, and before State Assembly Committee meetings. The most dangerous people I have ever given interviews, or comments to, are the Media. They'll take your words out of context, and twist them, such that regardless of what you actually said, they will make it sound like you said, whatever they want for their report.

You have to be very careful, and precise when speaking to the media. IMO you need to word your statements so that they are perfectly clear and can not be twisted. Now... I have had little personal experience with the media. Nothing compared to a man who has been in the public eye for as long as I can remember. Because of the above, I listen to news reports with a jaundiced eye, but when I SEE the briefing LIVE I am stunned by the idiocy of feeding the media with such lunacy.
 
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