Daylight savings-gone

[bykfixer]

In the US the Senate passed the "Sunshine Protection Act" which in essence does away with the hour clock change in fall and spring. Yet it was reported it takes affect in 2023. It was over in the House last I heard. Perhaps by the end of the week it'll be on the Presidents desk.

I'm not real sure sunshine needs protection from the United States, but then again it may have asked for help. I dunno.

I don't mind daylight savings time, nor the change in the fall as I look foward to what I call flashlight season. It was also a time to rest after a long summer at a job that largely goes 7am to dark. After the "fall back" that meant working until 4 instead of 5 and enjoying a cool breeze blowing in the car or truck on the travel back home.

Thoughts?

 

[Jean-Luc Descarte]

In my country we haven't had clock changes for the summer since 2018, and I couldn't be happier. The idea of "7 in the afternoon" doesn't gel with me, and I'm perfectly fine with sunrise at 5AM.

Then again, I live in a tropical latitude (roughly equal to Florida or northern Mexico), so my reality may not apply to you guys that live closer to the poles.

 

[JimIslander]

My thoughts are 100% supportive. Wouldn't bother me if they added another hour of daylight! Flashlights in the morning, dirt bike and surf after work in the middle of winter.

 

[thermal guy]

I hate the time change. The only thing I'm going to miss is the excuse of being able to be late to work for a day😂😂

 

[Lumen83]

I would like to stop changing the time. I like when its dark in the morning.

 

[Olumin]

While I completely support doing away with fiddling with the clocks, I do not support permanently keeping DST (meaning +1h). This debate has been going on in Europe for years and it is as of yet unclear whether DST or winter time will be kept permanently. I for my part wouldn't appreciate having an hour permanently stolen from me (friendly reminder that standard time is "winter time", not the other way around). My heart goes out to you guys.

 

[idleprocess]

I really don't care if we settle on standard or daylight savings time - simply that we stop changing the clocks twice annually. I don't even care if businesses, government adopt summer and winter hours to compensate should they prove advantageous.

 

[Lynx_Arc]

I'm 100% for dumping DST as I've replaced a lot of my clocks over the years with clocks that make it easy to bump the hour back and forth for DST and as I had older clocks that incremented change by scrolling minutes forward only so you had to wait for it to go all the way around to "fall back" and also going forward if you went past the time you had to do it again. I got clocks that you could change the hour forwards and backwards and some even supported changing DST for you but when they decided to move DST to a different starting/ending date those clocks no longer could take advantage of it.

IMO companies can decide to change working hours to coincide with sunlight, many jobs when it starts getting hot they change starting times to earlier so people will be working less in the afternoon when it can get too hot. Nobody is stopping people from changing their work times at all. I think that the time change can disrupt sleeping habits, stress people out. I worked nights for a long time and DST was horrible as it was always dark going to work and coming home when I was working overtime I felt like I was the walking dead as the sun was going down when I went to work and not coming up when I got off work.

 

[thermal guy]

actually, why did we do this in the first place I've heard like 10 different reasons??

 

[Beamhead]

I say leave it as it is now year-round, I like daylight into the late evening year-round.

 

[jtr1962]

I would have preferred we keep standard time all year. It makes more sense, too, because standard time is what existed since we standardized time zones. Daylight saving time is just a kludge which makes the sun set later on days we have very early sunrises. I would think standard time would be more popular on this site since it gives us more time to play with our flashlights.

But at this point I'll take anything to avoid the stupidity of changing the clock twice a year. Maybe after a few years of daylight saving time we might instead realize staying on standard time is the better solution. In the meantime though it'll be nice not changing the clock. Just once more this fall, then once again in spring 2023, and we'll finally be done with this nonsense.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

I saw someone suggest moving the clocks back 30 min and just leaving it as is lol.

 

[idleprocess]

actually, why did we do this in the first place I've heard like 10 different reasons??

Short answer: energy savings. Originally instituted during WWI and WWII then eventually as a matter of federal law in 1967, the idea was to reduce energy consumption for lighting businesses by shifting working hours to, well, daylight hours. With the advent of the 24-hour economy, offices more or less running continuously (air conditioning, workstations, lighting), and energy-efficient lighting (floro or better almost everywhere) the energy-savings value proposition is pretty much negligible.

 

[jtr1962]

It looks like most of the world prefers to just stay on standard time:

Daylight saving time by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have a feeling after a few years of staying on DST we'll revert to standard time permanently just to be in sync with most of the rest of the planet.

 

[Hooked on Fenix]

Seems if we go back to how it was before daylight saving time, the sun goes down an hour earlier in the evening from spring to fall when California has peak electrical grid hours and waning solar power. That could be detrimental to the grid. Then, if we stick to spring forward, during winter months in the colder states, more kids could freeze going to school before sunrise. I guess we'll just have to maybe try it and see if we can adapt, or if we have to change back.

 

[KITROBASKIN]

OK with me to get an extra hour to sleep in springtime but then an hour has to be paid back in fall; seems better to live flexibly instead of the same old rut routine. Never have I made our son go to bed by a certain hour so he learns that life is not always on a schedule, and can roll with it when necessary.

Years ago, taking care of fancy horses, I would get to the barn shortly before dawn, regardless what the clock said. It was a good way of life; the horses wanted to get on with the day, and the human riders could start riding fairly early if they wanted.

Seems like we could try a different arrangement to see how people like it, whether it is standard or 'daylight saving'.

 

[jtr1962]

Then, if we stick to spring forward, during winter months in the colder states, more kids could freeze going to school before sunrise. I guess we'll just have to maybe try it and see if we can adapt, or if we have to change back.

No reason school can't start later. In fact, numerous studies show 9 or 10 AM start times are result in better educational outcomes, especially for teenagers. When I was in grade school and middle school we started at 9 AM. I can't believe some places start school as early as 7 AM. I don't think even morning people like to be up that early.

 

[JimIslander]

I would have preferred we keep standard time all year. It makes more sense, too, because standard time is what existed since we standardized time zones. Daylight saving time is just a kludge which makes the sun set later on days we have very early sunrises. I would think standard time would be more popular on this site since it gives us more time to play with our flashlights.

But at this point I'll take anything to avoid the stupidity of changing the clock twice a year. Maybe after a few years of daylight saving time we might instead realize staying on standard time is the better solution. In the meantime though it'll be nice not changing the clock. Just once more this fall, then once again in spring 2023, and we'll finally be done with this nonsense.

Alternating time has been "standard time" since 1966, longer than most of the population has been alive. Although by your user name, perhaps you and I were both born in the same year (1962).

In any case, all of modern society here in the US has dealt with alternating time, so IMO there is no legitimate obligation to time based on what it was over 55 years ago. And that leaves us to choosing what works best for all of us.

For me, what works best is having more sunlight after a normal working day, and that means permanent DST. More sunlight after work is especially useful in winter, when we normally lose DST and go back the bad old days of "standard time".

 

[AstroTurf]

i have and will always have two times...

day time and night time.

 

[kerneldrop]

i have and will always have two times...

day time and night time.

That's deep.