DELIVERY DRIVER KEYCHAIN LIGHT

jadedriver

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1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light in person from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
_xx___This will be mail-order or Online (location doesn't matter).


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____I don't know yet
____Up to $25.
____Up to $50.
___x_Up to $100.
____Up to $200.
____Up to $300.
____Essentially unlimited.


3) Format:

___x_I am not sure, please help me decide.
____I want a flashlight (hand held/self contained).
____I want a self-contained headlamp.
____I want a headlamp with an external pack/power source.
____I want a mounted light (typically for a bicycle or vehicle)
____I want a lantern/area light.
____I want a portable spotlight (it may have an external power source).
____Other ____________________________________________


4) Size:

___x_MICRO - Keychain size.
__x__TINY - Every day carry (2-4 inches).
____SMALL - Every day carry (4-7 inches).
____MEDIUM - Holster/belt ring carry. (>7 inches)
____LARGE - Big enough to need its own travel case.
____I don't know/I don't care.


5) Emitter/Light source:

____LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
__x__I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

____xI want to buy a light from a large/traditional manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would like a light from a specialty manufacturer (Possibly limited run/Custom).
____I am interested in assembling my own components. (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source).


7) What power source do you want to use?

____I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Alkaline batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
____I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Lithium batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D and CR123 sized cells common to most stores (often a cold weather or long storage choice).
____I intend to use Rechargeable cells (NiMH or NiCD) based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
____I intend to use Rechargeable cells based on less common formats (18500 or 18650 Li-Ion, RCR123, et-al).
____xI want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery pack.
___x_I don't know/I need more information on power sources.

7a) If you have selected a rechargeable option
____I want a light that plugs directly into the wall (literally with prongs built into the light)
____I want a light that has a recharging adapter (your typical "wall wart")
____I want a light that snaps into a cradle (usually mounted on a wall)
____I want a separate/stand-alone charger (this involves removing the batteries to charge)
_x___I don't care


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is not a happy experience).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (1-10 lumens).
____I want an indoor "blackout" light (15-50 lumens)
____I want to confidently walk around an unlit/unpaved rural area (60-150 lumens).
___x_I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want search and rescue type illumination (800+ lumens).

____SPECIAL NOTE: Burst/Turbo mode Category - There are several lights that will run at a super bright maximum for a very limited period (usually 5-10 minutes) and then will "step-down" to a lower level for thermal control. Check here if this is acceptable.


9) Flood vs Throw: Flood covers an area, Throw reaches out to a distance.

____All Flood: I am doing "arms length" tasks like reading and campsite cooking.
____Wide Flood: I want a defined flood area for semi-close tasks like after-dark campsite tasks or working on a car.
____Narrow Flood: I want a sharply defined flood area that will project some distance for tasks like trail walking.
____Wide Throw: I want a beam with a noticeable hot-center for distance throw and a significant amount of "side-spill". Good for rough trail hiking, search and rescue, and general distance work.
___xx_Narrow Throw: I want a beam with a very tight "hot center" and minimal "side-spill". Good for distance viewing, fog, and looking through dense undergrowth.
____Turbohead: I want a far-distance projector with a sharply focused spot of light and minimal or zero side-spill. Good for extreme distance and impressing your friends.

9a) Distance: How far away will you typically need to see with this light (check all that apply)
____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
__x__50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I am searching from a helicopter)

10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum continuous output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
___x_30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
___x_90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).




11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
___x_Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't know.


12) Switch Size, Type, and location (choose all that apply):

___x_Any size switch will do.
____I need a BIG switch (I'll be using gloves or have very large hands or coordination issues).
____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today's high end lights).
____I want a remote switch (usually found on high-end bicycle headlights)
____I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
___x_I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Oscillating pattern to confuse/blind aka "Police Mode")
____I want SOS mode. (blinks in ...---... emergency pattern)
____I want a beacon mode. (Regular flashes at full power to show location.)
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today's higher end flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
__x__I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________.

15) Water resistance
____None needed
__x__IPX4 (Splash resistant)
____IPX7 (Waterproof to 1 meter/30min)
____IPX8 (Submersible to greater than 1 meter for 4 hours)

16) Storage conditions
____In house (temperature/climate controlled environment)
____Emergency kit (long standby periods)
x___Automobile glove-box (wide temperature swings, long standby periods, critical reliability)
____Other_____________________________________________


17) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any/all below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking, Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

***** IM A DELIVERY DRIVER. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOUSE NUMBERS AND MAILBOXES WITHOUT STRUGGLING TOMAKE THINGS OUT, SOMETIMES 75 YARD AWAY (BASED ON MY GOLF GAME LOL). BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CARRY AROUND MY NECK AND USE IN THE CAR TO READ AND SEARCH. THANKS GUYS!
 

kerneldrop

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Keychain light won't go 75 yards.
It would have to defy physics.

The lumintop GT micro or mini or nano or whatever it's called might be closest thing
 

thermal guy

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Ya that GT nano is rated at like 300 yards so figure half that it real World. For only a minute or so though before it drops down. I have a fenix E15 on my keys. 450 lumens. If you need more then that grab your edc light.
 

LEDphile

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Given how few lights there are currently on the market today with both a spot "high" beam and a flood "low" beam, you are probably better off with 2 lights here. Something small and low output for close-up work, and something larger for your spot beam. Plenty of options for both; for reasonably priced, readily available throw, the mid-size and larger Mag lights are a reasonable choice
 

jadedriver

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Basically you need a big flashlight head to throw that beam 75 yards.

I suppose you can attach any sized light to a neck lanyard, but most think of a keychain light as a tiny little light. And a tiny little light won't have the reflector size to cast the light that far before it fades away in the night
true, but many lights i have looked at dont have anything on them for a lanyard attachment which is why i say keychain light as by design its to be attached to a string yah know? i guess its not really important to have it on a lanyard i just dont want a monster light, want something small
 

jadedriver

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I see they don't make the E15 anymore. Check out the Fenix E18
so this is where my brain turns to mush...i google the fenix E18 and right next to it is another fenix that looks no different called the e12r and next to that the 20kkklll blah blah blah and they all look the same :(
 

thermal guy

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Ya they kinda do. The E18 is much more powerful and throws a lot further. Bigger battery and more powerful led.
 

KITROBASKIN

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It has a lanyard hole, good throw, decent runtime, easy to check battery state of charge, just hold the button to achieve desired light level. Certainly your delivery truck has some place to store this until needed. A belt holster would work but if around the neck, placing it in a shirt pocket would be more comfortable, taking pressure off the neck. Consider either a (easy on the eyes) dedomed 519A 5700K or the 4000K SST-20 but one could go for maximum throw with a W1 or W2. There are other terrific choices in emitters.

The amber lit switch does it for me, giving enough light just from the switch for fully night adapted eyes basic close in navigation, but one would think either of the white switches may be good. Do not be concerned with the lighted switch draining the battery. While it is easy to slightly unscrew the tailcap to open the circuit, if you are using it for work, you will need to recharge it from that use anyway.

Have fun and get what you want. Maybe experiment.
 

bykfixer

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Candela is more important than lumens. Compare cd numbers to get a feel for how well it throws.
I like the Manker T01 for this one. 1x AA size but can run off a powerful 14500 cell too. Has a lanyard hole on the end. Has memory too.
It's by far the throweyest tiny light I own. The reflector causes it to act like a big ole Maglite.
 

jadedriver

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Candela is more important than lumens. Compare cd numbers to get a feel for how well it throws.
I like the Manker T01 for this one. 1x AA size but can run off a powerful 14500 cell too. Has a lanyard hole on the end. Has memory too.
It's by far the throweyest tiny light I own. The reflector causes it to act like a big ole Maglite.
a powerful 14500? i dont know much about batteries
 
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