Dereelight Javelin

[recDNA]

I'm almost completely set on the Javelin, I just had a few quetions I was hoping you guys could help me with.

1. How wide is the spill compared to the Quarks?

About the same but the Dereelight has a much more concentrated hotspot and throws further.

2. Can the light theoretically take an 18650?
Yes, same drop in works with 18650 but then you don't want the Javelin. I use the Dereelight R5 P60 in a Solarforce L2 but you can buy another model of the Dereelight (CL1H) with the same drop in and a body for 18650.

3. How much will the XRE out throw the XPG?[/QUOTE

I think the lux of R2 is usually almost double the lux from R5 (with the same reflector) but you have to take the square root of lux to determine actual throw so the R2 probably throws less than 1.5 times as far.

 

[red02]

Thanks for the info, it looks like a perfect light for camping.

From what I understand Jay from flashlightconnection still has some XRE pill laying around collecting dust, so I thought it might be worth the down grade.

Speaking of which, wouldn't the overall brightness of the XPG make up for some of that loss of throw? I was hoping not to get both drop ins, but it's that's looking less likely now...

 

[recDNA]

Both? What about the MC-E? LOL
then there's the thrunite 1.5 amp drop in......malkoff m61........nailbender sst-50. Do u really think you'll quit after 2???

 

[jugornot]

I bought an xre and mce pill from dx, they are ok. I combined the xre with the smooth reflector for the xre javelin. It is quite a thrower. The mce is not as good even with the 3xaa. So I have the original xpg in one, and the xre in the host I bought. $28 for the host is a great deal.

 

[red02]

I wanted to get a 3-mode XPG pill and mod it with an XRE.

Is this a good idea?

 

[recDNA]

I was just playing with my Javelin. I have the Dereelight XP-G R5 with 2 X L91 AA's. What a fantastic flashlight it is. Dollar for dollar probably the best flashlight I've bought. I also use another Javelin head with the shorty body and an IMR123. I love em both.

 

[recDNA]

I wanted to get a 3-mode XPG pill and mod it with an XRE.

Is this a good idea?

Yes it is but be sure to get the reflector that comes with the XRE. It is a different reflector than the XP-G

 

[red02]

Fortunately I didn't have to mod anything. Dereelight direct still carries the multi-stage XREs

Where did you get your AA lithiums? Any good deals out there?

 

[recDNA]

If there are I haven't found them. I bought a whole bunch at CVS when they accidentally marked the 8 packs at the 4 pack price. Clearly said the price and for 8 pack but it was a mistake. They were also on sale so I got them for less than half price. Just a fluke.

I hope Dereelight gets some of those new smaller XRE R2's. I KNOW if they tell me they are the new ones they will be the new ones. I really like their products and their service.

 

[JB]

Anyone know the lumens rating for the Javelin at the 3 different levels?

Their website doesn't say anything. Only thing I found at flashlightconnection.com is 250 OTF (presumably at max). But nothing about the other 2 levels.

 

[Midnight Oil]

See posts #34 and #35 in this marketplace thread:

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=204371&page=2

The output on high is higher now, but I think the relative outputs are still the same.

 

[red02]

Anyone know the lumens rating for the Javelin at the 3 different levels?

Their website doesn't say anything. Only thing I found at flashlightconnection.com is 250 OTF (presumably at max). But nothing about the other 2 levels.

The modes are 100% 50% and 5% IIRC. About 200+, 40+ and 4 or 5+ for the XRE.

 

[OrchidLight]

I have the Javelin and while I like the look of it, I am completely unimpressed with the operation of it. Only three modes, and they are very difficult to change. I own Fenix and Quark likes and they are much more usable in my opinion.

Orchidlight

 

[jblackwood]

The only difference in switching between modes between Quarks, Fenixes, and Dereelight is that Dereelight uses a forward switch whereas the others use a reverse clicky. I seem to remember some talk of a reverse switch coming out, but I never cared too much about it so I never paid attention.

Just push the button forward until you get light. They all have memory so the mode you last used is the one you'll always get first. If it's the mode you want, push it a little farther to latch it on. Much easier to explain than a reverse clicky, if you ask me. You COULD always get a single stage pill and forget modes all together, but since you complained about "only 3 stages" I'm assuming you won't like that direction (do you really need the disco modes?). Keep in mind, if you want a 4 mode Dereelight, the C2Hs come with 4 modes. 😗 Not the same as the Javelin, but then again Dereelight only produced the Javelin because we asked for a AA body.

 

[red02]

Its pretty much the same action if you quickly tap a Fenix to change modes. Except you start with the light on instead of off.

The memory is the only real thing I would change. Its difficult to remember what setting was last used. Oh, and made the delay on the modes just a little shorter.

Besides its really annoying passing over the mode you want and having to repeat the cycle in order get back to it. The trick is to stop and press down when you found the right one. low-med-high instead of the current high-med-low would also be nice... I guess I'm just nitpicking here.

 

[Abyssos]

I agree with changing mode being a pain. My Javelin arrived with the pill not fully screwed down so it wasn't very cooperative. After I secured it, the light became more predictable, but changing modes is still a pain. I always have my Javelin set on high so I do know which mode it will come on. One other complaint is the tint. The center of the hot spot is soooo green that it is annoying. I may look for another drop-in for it.

 

[red02]

I agree with changing mode being a pain. My Javelin arrived with the pill not fully screwed down so it wasn't very cooperative. After I secured it, the light became more predictable, but changing modes is still a pain. I always have my Javelin set on high so I do know which mode it will come on. One other complaint is the tint. The center of the hot spot is soooo green that it is annoying. I may look for another drop-in for it.

The UI isn't the greatest but its not the worst either. I really can't stand those pure twisty UIs...

Its odd that you have a green tint. Maybe you want to contact Dereelight directly and see what they can do. I got my pill directly from them and the low and med on mine are cool-white, but the high is creamy vanilla white.

 

[recDNA]

The UI isn't the greatest but its not the worst either. I really can't stand those pure twisty UIs...

Its odd that you have a green tint. Maybe you want to contact Dereelight directly and see what they can do. I got my pill directly from them and the low and med on mine are cool-white, but the high is creamy vanilla white.

I got mine from an American dealer and he was nice enough to pick out a P60 with the tint I asked for.

 

[red02]

I got mine from an American dealer and he was nice enough to pick out a P60 with the tint I asked for.

I like doing business with Jay. Unfortunately he didn't have the 3 stage XRE. Dereelight made good on my request for a "non-green WG" or was it WD?

 

[Abyssos]

I got mine straight from Dereelight. I would have liked to deal with a local dealer but I wanted the three mode pill. May try contacting the Dereelight, but I am into Neutral tint now...😛