Energizer 15 minute charger soft charge modification unsuccessful

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There is a modification described by MrAl whereby you can trick the Energizer 15 minute charger into thinking it is charging AAA cells instead of AA cells. It is indicated that this will cause the charger to use the lower AAA charging current on AA cells and charge them in about 40 minutes rather than about 15 minutes while keeping them cooler in the process.

This seemed like a nice mod to make, so I tried it out on some 1700 mAh cells I have to hand. Unfortunately it did not have the desired result. With the first two cells I charged the red light stayed on for about 15 minutes [edit: second measurement 20 minutes] before going green. The fan ran for about 5 minutes after that before stopping. So far just like AA cells. The maximum cell temperature reached during the charge was about 36°C, which is much less than normally expected. I left the cells sitting on the charger until about 30 minutes from the start and then removed them for a discharge test on the C9000. I measured charges of 891 and 935 mAh. Hmmm, thought I :thinking: Maybe they need a bit more time for topping off?

For the second two cells I left them on the charger for 70 minutes from the start of charging. Then I discharged these and measured 936 and 953 mAh. Much the same as before.

So I conclude that the charger has a maximum charge limit for AAA cells of about 1000 mAh. If you try to charge AA cells on the AAA setting, you just get a fast partial charge instead of a fast full charge.

I suppose however, you could try to charge them twice in succession to get the full charge? I did not attempt this, but perhaps I will. Is that a hidden instruction for this modification perhaps?
 
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I did a second test with two successive charges. I charged the batteries once and waited until the fan stopped. The maximum cell temperature reached was about 36°C as before. After the fan stopped I immediately put them on a second charge. This took a further full 20 minutes and this time the maximum temperature reached was about 45°C which felt quite warm to the touch.

After the fan stopped on the second charge a ran a discharge. This time the measured charges were 1548 and 1584 mAh. This is much closer to the 100% charged target of over 1650 mAh, but not quite as high as I have seen when charging on the C9000.

So I'm not sure whether to keep the modification in place or not. With the modification in place the charging procedure needs attention half way through, and yet the maximum temperature reached was still moderately high. Perhaps I should compare the full rate AA charge without the modification.
 
I did a second test with two successive charges. I charged the batteries once and waited until the fan stopped. The maximum cell temperature reached was about 36°C as before. After the fan stopped I immediately put them on a second charge. This took a further full 20 minutes and this time the maximum temperature reached was about 45°C which felt quite warm to the touch.

After the fan stopped on the second charge a ran a discharge. This time the measured charges were 1548 and 1584 mAh. This is much closer to the 100% charged target of over 1650 mAh, but not quite as high as I have seen when charging on the C9000.

So I'm not sure whether to keep the modification in place or not. With the modification in place the charging procedure needs attention half way through, and yet the maximum temperature reached was still moderately high. Perhaps I should compare the full rate AA charge without the modification.

For comparison sake, what temp do you get running the standard 7.5A 15 minute AA charge?
 
I have not tested yet, but with these cells I would predict it is going to be above 60°C.

Wow!! Do you stand the charger up to allow maximum air flow through? I've mentioned before in another thread that batteries on my 15 min charger get only moderately warm to the touch, which unscientifically measured feels about the same temp as the BC-900 on 700-1000mA charge.
 
I removed some of the slats around the fan to allow more flow too. That plus proping it up or on it's side helps quite a bit.
 
I actually removed the original fan and put another more powerful one on top so it blows down on the batterries, keeps it much cooler.
 
Re: Energizer 15 minute charger soft charge modification unsuccessful - Fan replace?

I actually removed the original fan and put another more powerful one on top so it blows down on the batterries, keeps it much cooler.

Hi, my fan just stopped permanently spinning on my Energizer CH15MN.

Having a an electronics background I am hoping to change the fan on mine instead of throw it out. Unfortunately there isn't many markings on the fan (just 5917).

If you don't mind sharing, can you share what fan/model you used to replace the original fan? From what I measured, seems like a 50x50x11mm and my multimeter reads 6V AC, or 3V DC across two of the pins (assuming nothing burned out after the fan failed).

Cheers,
Eric
 
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