Final A2 design?

[Carpe Diem]

If anyone knows yet...

On the A2 production model, will you be able to easily remove and replace the LED`s, so that you can switch from one set of colored LED`s to another set of different colored LED`s in the same flashlight?

Thanks!

 

[McGizmo]

Carpe,

You remove the bezel from the body, pull out the incandescent LA and then remove three small screws that hold the LED ring PCB in place in the head. Remove ring and replace ring with other choice of LED ring. For a seasoned modder such as yourself; piece of cake.

- Don

 

[GeoffChan]

I think PK mentioned that its possible to change led's just by changing the board.

Geoff

 

[Carpe Diem]

Thanks, Geoff!

And Don...you`re absolutely right. There really isn`t anything hard at all with this "mod" stuff!

EDITED PS: If anyone wants to know more about the "ease of modding"

, I invite you to read this thread

 

[ToddM]

I'm happy the batteries get loaded from the rear, I don't know how many times I've put new ones in my E2e only to have the lamp fall out. It's nearly as annoying as having my 9N's tailcap fall apart everytime I change batteries.

 

[nihraguk]

toddm: how is the tailcap-end of the barrel of the A2 different from the E2 such that the batteries can be loaded from the rear? the lamp dropping out of the bezel was one of the things i really disliked about the E2/E2e.

btw does anyone still have an E2 here? i'm thinking of getting one for a friend, but it looks as if the pocketclip will scrape up the light everytime the bezel is unscrewed. is this correct? one more thing: is it possible to replace the lexan press fit lens in an E2? it seems like the built in reflector would get in the way. TIA to anyone who responds

 

[K-T]

OT, but:

I have a E1 and none of the cratches that are on the body are results from unscrewing the bezel! They are all results of using, dropping and tossing the light.

The lexan lense of the standart E1/2 bezel cannot be replaced by Pyrex. What you could do is get an E2e bezel, remember than you would not have a clip anymore.
Todd, why don't you replace the battery from your 9N by unscrewing the head, this way chances of apart-falling-tailcaps is very small.

K-T :makes mental note "want A2":

 

[nihraguk]

K-T: thanks

so the clip does scrape against the light when the bezel is being unscrewed? i suppose if it doesn't damage the body then its alright. about the lens, what i meant was if the lexan lens could be replaced with another lexan lens should the original get bubbled or damaged. again, TIA!

 

[brightnorm]

Originally posted by SurefireM6:
Will the E2e tailcap work with the A2 if I don't want the dual stage switch? That should make it a tad bit shorter.

and will there be an incandescent only bezel made? I still want an E2e/Digital with no LED. Or an M2D!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'd like to know about this also.

Brightnorm

 

[CM]

Anyone know if the A2 will work with the Copia Lithium Ion LRB168B? I thought someone mentioned the two in the same thread but couldn't find it. Also, does anyone "in the know" know voltage the A2 incandescent runs at? A regulated incandescent with Lithium Ions is a match made in heaven.

TIA

CM

 

[McGizmo]

CM,

great idea but two problems:

1) the LED's would be real dim as they are resistored for 6Vin and not 3.7. Liveable though

2) the Copias are WAY too fat. That's a big NO GO.

- Don

 

[CM]

McGizmo,

The 168B's are supposed to fit where standard 1x123's fit, at least according to wolfeyes website. I think they're 16mm or so in width. Now the 168A's which are 18mm are definitely way too fat. The LED resistors can be changed of course. That's kind of a bummer if it didn't work. Another dream shattered. I WANT RECHARGEABLE 123's!!!!

 

[Klaus]

I think Chris is right on the copias - Don - you might have mixed that A and B up - or did you try - following your last post on this issue you seem to have researched this further ?

Rechargeable 123´s - there are those 2/3A NiCd and Nimhs which are a tad smaller than 123´s at around 28mm - SF is making the B65 out of 4 650ma NiCds I think - I´m running a E2e/KL1 with 2 700ma NiCds for an hour - can´t wait for my UBH to use 2 2700ma A NiMhs though .....

Al mentioned he´s running a KL3 on a G2/6P w rechargeable extension (G2R/6R) for 110 minuts.

Klaus

EDIT - found this from last month

Glo Bug,

I have some batteries coming my way and I was also told by somebody who would know, that the single 3.6 Li-Ion battery WILL work in the A2 I did forget to ask how the LED's would be effected since they are on a simple resistive circuit. I don't know if the Vin is massaged by the circuitry for the LED's or if they receive their power raw. I guess we should have these answers one of these days.

- Don

 

[Blikbok]

(doublepost)

 

[Blikbok]

Don:

Does that mean that the A2 *will* upgrade the 3.7v from a Li-Ion to 6v for the incandescent lamp?

 

[brightnorm]

Originally posted by nihraguk:
K-T: thanks

so the clip does scrape against the light when the bezel is being unscrewed? i suppose if it doesn't damage the body then its alright. about the lens, what i meant was if the lexan lens could be replaced with another lexan lens should the original get bubbled or damaged. again, TIA!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">nihraguk,

It's unlikely to damage the body since bezel removal and replacement will be occasional rather than constant (unless you're even more compulsive than the average Flashaholic!) :-) Also, you can adjust the clip so that it touches lightly, or not at all.

If you have HAIII it will be even less of an issue.

Brightnorm

 

[McGizmo]

Klaus and others,

The 168B WILL NOT FIT in the A2. Although your mileage may vary, I expect you will find that the Copia is a few thousandth's of an inch larger in diameter than the bore of the A2. Those with L1's and Copia 168B's can see for themselves. The SF batteries just slide into the digital series tubes. Those with Copia B series batteries can confirm that the SF 123's are smaller in diameter than the Copia's. Another significant consideration is the fact that if you jam a cell into the tube of a L1 or A2, you don't have access from the other end to push it out.

Sorry to bring tidings of bad news but I call them like I see them. If the Copia can shrink in diameter a bit, cool. I can't see SF changing their tollerances on a most sophisticated and complex piece of hardware. I have some other Li-Ion batteries of nominal 123 diameter and they too would likely get stuck in an A2 or L1.

- Don

 

[Size15's]

I can't think of a better flashlight right now to "invest" a pair of SF123As in than the A2.

I think that concentrated LiIon and various other rechargeable chemistries are too dangerous to use in flashlights right now. It's not the same as cell phone or Sony smart batteries. We need higher density in a far smaller package. Two sets of electronics in the body is reducing the juice storage. I'm happy to wait for SureFire's offering IF they ever consider the technology suitable.

The A2 gives you more from your SF123As then you ever think possible. It still amazes me that the light can be so white after being on for so long.

Al

 

[ygbsm]

From Shelby's picture, it doesn't appear that there is much distance from the edge of the bezel and the lens.

 

[yclo]

What about if you bore the inner diameter of the A2 for that extra few mm? Then would it fit?