I have been looking for a Duty LED

[Bullman]

And until right now I was saving my coin for a Pelican 8060. 190 lumens of performance, long burntime and a light I can stick under my arm while I talk with a violator.

But I just saw this Bayco NSR-9850 lightstick and I am quite frankly blown away by the concept, and the numbers it puts up. A 300 lumen spot, a 400 lumen flood on the side of the head and it has a burn time comparable to the Pelican. Supposed to have a strobe feature for tactical entries, plus you don't even have to stick your arm in the room to light it up, just put the flood and spot on at the same time and light it all up. Any of you all heard anything about this flashlight in the real world yet, are the numbers misleading?

 

[NotRegulated]

Are you looking for a large main light or one that can also go on your belt?

I have never used nor seen the Bayco used. I have used the Pelican 8060 and 7060. Between the two I prefer the 7060 by a large margin.

 

[Bullman]

I was looking more for a large main light, something I can stick under my arm while talking with people and such. I guess the 7060 is more of a belt light, how does it compare with incan belt light like the scion and scorpion?

 

[SFG2Lman]

sharp light! i like the unique design, unfortunately i have never heard of bayco...but perhaps someone around here has

 

[NotRegulated]

I was looking more for a large main light, something I can stick under my arm while talking with people and such. I guess the 7060 is more of a belt light, how does it compare with incan belt light like the scion and scorpion?

The Streamlight Strion and the Scorpion are both about 6" long lights. The Strion is rechargeable only. The Scorpion is CR123 battery powered only. Streamlight has now just come out with the PolyTac which is about the same size as the two above. It also runs on two CR123 also. In the same family are the Surefire G2, 6P, C2, E series etc. All these will very easily fit on the belt or in the pants pocket.

Larger lights that will fit under your arm and fit on your belt would be the Pelican 7060, Streamlight Stinger LED, Surefire 8 and 9 series, Surefire 9P, Wolfeyes Raider, Tigerlight, Pila GL4R, etc.

The larger "duty lights" like the Streamlight Sl-20x, Magcharger, Pelican 8060, UltraStinger, 10X are good tools but are difficult to carry for any length of time and get in the way when running, climbing or sitting in the car. They are best suited as a large main light that resides in the car to grab for traffic stop duty, crime scenes, accident scenes and longer range treeline, building line searches.

Get a high quality rechargeable as a main duty light and a good smaller 2x123 or 3x123 cell light as a belt mounted light. Make sure one is always on your belt. Some of the lights that will fit under your arm and fit on your belt can use rechargeables and/or use primary CR123 batteries such as the Surefire 9P and the Wolfeyes Raider. They can also be run with incandescent bulbs or LED's. The incans will give you much better color and detail recognition and punch through ambient street light very well but the runtime is short compared to LED. Many swear by the large rechargeable incan and a smaller LED backup. I prefer a Surefire 9P on the belt with a Malkoff Devices M60 LED bulb assembly installed. 2.5 hrs of runtime on 3 CR123's and around 2 hrs on two 17500 rechargeables.

 

[sassafrass]

And until right now I was saving my coin for a Pelican 8060. 190 lumens of performance, long burntime and a light I can stick under my arm while I talk with a violator.

But I just saw this Bayco NSR-9850 lightstick and I am quite frankly blown away by the concept, and the numbers it puts up. A 300 lumen spot, a 400 lumen flood on the side of the head and it has a burn time comparable to the Pelican. Supposed to have a strobe feature for tactical entries, plus you don't even have to stick your arm in the room to light it up, just put the flood and spot on at the same time and light it all up. Any of you all heard anything about this flashlight in the real world yet, are the numbers misleading?

While having never seen or used one , after going to the bayco website Bayco starts out by saying that they are leaders in LED technology but so far no one seems to have heard of them, myself included . My first impression is it looks kind of like a good idea poorly executed. They go on to say that being LED lighting it gives better color rendition than incandescent that they say distort colors , I understand the opposite to be true. If it was my money being spent or even more important my life on the line I would want a light with a reputation of reliability and performance.
Best regards , Lee

 

[Bullman]

While having never seen or used one , after going to the bayco website Bayco starts out by saying that they are leaders in LED technology but so far no one seems to have heard of them, myself included . My first impression is it looks kind of like a good idea poorly executed. They go on to say that being LED lighting it gives better color rendition than incandescent that they say distort colors , I understand the opposite to be true. If it was my money being spent or even more important my life on the line I would want a light with a reputation of reliability and performance.
Best regards , Lee

Which is why I checked here first. I have heard of companies like Streamlight, Pelican and Surefire etc, but never Bayco. I like the numbers they put up, but without someone telling me it is the best flashlight they ever had, I am still probably looking at the Pelican.

 

[recDNA]

And until right now I was saving my coin for a Pelican 8060. 190 lumens of performance, long burntime and a light I can stick under my arm while I talk with a violator.

But I just saw this Bayco NSR-9850 lightstick and I am quite frankly blown away by the concept, and the numbers it puts up. A 300 lumen spot, a 400 lumen flood on the side of the head and it has a burn time comparable to the Pelican. Supposed to have a strobe feature for tactical entries, plus you don't even have to stick your arm in the room to light it up, just put the flood and spot on at the same time and light it all up. Any of you all heard anything about this flashlight in the real world yet, are the numbers misleading?

How about a Fenix TK40 http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=233856&page=3or an Olight M30 or a Wolf Eyes Sniper?
They're all brighter than the Pelican.

 

[JasonC8301]

+1 to this. I do not have the luxury of being in a squad car, or any car with 4 wheels for that matter. I ride the NYC subways and am on foot for 9-12 hours a day and size/weight really do matter, but thats me. My department went to the collapsible baton due to folks not having it because they left it in their car. Whats not on the belt usually won't be in your hands during a distress situation because you want to get there to help a brother out ASAP.

I went through a whole bunch of flashlights to find "the one" and I have settled on a Surefire G3 in the kit (Surefire G3 LED and holster for the duty belt) with a Z48 click on click off tailcap. Cheap? Not at all. $140 for the G3 kit and ~$39 for the tailcap but I personally find it works for me due to the light sitting head down in the holster for easy access/index.

I tried a two cell light and for duty use its just a little it to small for my hands.

The larger "duty lights" like the Streamlight Sl-20x, Magcharger, Pelican 8060, UltraStinger, 10X are good tools but are difficult to carry for any length of time and get in the way when running, climbing or sitting in the car. They are best suited as a large main light that resides in the car to grab for traffic stop duty, crime scenes, accident scenes and longer range treeline, building line searches.

Get a high quality rechargeable as a main duty light and a good smaller 2x123 or 3x123 cell light as a belt mounted light. Make sure one is always on your belt. Some of the lights that will fit under your arm and fit on your belt can use rechargeables and/or use primary CR123 batteries such as the Surefire 9P and the Wolfeyes Raider. They can also be run with incandescent bulbs or LED's. The incans will give you much better color and detail recognition and punch through ambient street light very well but the runtime is short compared to LED. Many swear by the large rechargeable incan and a smaller LED backup. I prefer a Surefire 9P on the belt with a Malkoff Devices M60 LED bulb assembly installed. 2.5 hrs of runtime on 3 CR123's and around 2 hrs on two 17500 rechargeables.

 

[Bullman]

Well, fortunately for me I work in a rural area, so I am looking for a car type light. I carry a Strion on my belt right now, I could get something brighter, but for right now it serves my purpose. I have an Ultrastinger in the car, and it is nice, but sometimes you get one of those calls that puts you out for a long time and the Ultrastinger just doesn't have the burn time, so I am looking for a good LED backup to that. Right now I have a 3 d cell maglight with an LED upgrade, and it is pathetic compared to even the Strion. I have been an SL 20 or Ultrastinger person for 20 years, I don't really know flashlights, other than I like a "good one"

 

[NotRegulated]

It sounds like the Pelican 8060 would be a good choice for you after all. It has the long burn time your are looking for and can use 4 C cells also.

 

[Bullman]

It sounds like the Pelican 8060 would be a good choice for you after all. It has the long burn time your are looking for and can use 4 C cells also.

I liked that feature as well, being able to use regular batteries.

 

[hyperloop]

Someone mentioned the Fenix TK40, take a look at it, its pretty durable as can be seen from this torture test, there's also a detailed review by an LEO

 

[Bullman]

I hate it that the Fenix light isn't rechargable, I guess I could get rechargable AA batteries, sounds like an awesome light though.

I found out one of the Comm guys at work who does Emergency vehicle outfitting on the side happens to be a Bayco dealer, I might get to sample one of those lights to see what it is like.

 

[hyperloop]

You could just get 16 eneloop AAs and carry a spare set around, swapping the cells out might just be a bit inconvenient but that's what your backup light is for right?

There are cheap carriers for AA cells here and the best part is they ship it for free even though it costs so little.

 

[Bullman]

Okay, now I have a question for you flashaholics. If Fenix can make a "day maker" like the TK40 that runs on 8 AA batteries and produces 630 lumens at peak performance, how come the LED upgrade I got for my 3 cell maglight is so freakin pathetic. Is there an LED bulb out there for a 3 cell that is more like a "day maker" than the one I can get at walmart? I may have my backup light and not even know it yet.

 

[rmteo]

This may be the closest to what you are looking for:
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_25_2&products_id=27

This is a D Size P7 Drop-In Module for Maglite® flashlights. The Light Must Have a "D" as the First Character of the Serial Number for a Proper Fit. It is our brightest dropin offered and is rated at 700+ bulb lumens. It is fully regulated and will operate on 5v to 13v input. Current draw is 1800ma at 6v and 1000ma at 12v. Two or three lithium rechargeable or six to nine NIMH batteries are ideal to power this Lamp Assembly.It is fully heatsinked and will run continuously for extended periods in a D Sized Maglite® Host.

 

[s23246g]

Speaking from experience, the best duty light is the one you won't leave in the car if you have to bail in a hurry. I carried a Streamlight Stinger on my belt for years, and if I were still in the game, I would update to the LED version. The Stinger is a great size to be able to carry on your duty belt as well as tuck under your arm to write a ticket, take notes, etc. I had the Poly Stinger, and much preferred it to the metal ones for weight and grip. Not to mention how cold the metal lights get when you are outside in the winter.

Hopefully your department provides a decent large rechargeable light for the car, and your stinger can be relegated to backup, but I used mine extensively.

Be careful out there.

 

[Bullman]

Can someone give me an idea on the size comparison of a Fenix TK40? Would it be considered a belt light, do black basketweave leather holsters exist for something it's size?

 

[Bullman]

I looked up the dimensions, if anyone knows of a holster that would be helpful, I may replace my Strion with this for a belt light and see if I can't upgrade my D cell maglight a bit better.