I melted another flashlight

EssLight

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Not a complete meltdown, but a significant warping of a plastic reflector.

What I was trying to do was make a cheap substitute for a Brinkmann Maxfire XL. I bought one of those last summer, I like it, I was bummed when Target put them on closeout and I couldn't find any.

The idea was to put 2xCR123 batteries with a Mag 4 cell Krypton bulb. I have done that successfully in an old Black and Decker Snakelight.

The flashlight that I chose to modify was an Eveready Industrial 2AA Flashlight ($4 at Home Depot).

It is a plastic flashlight which uses a PR bulb. The body is made larger than the AA cells it holds, there are plastic ribs on the inside that you can shave off to make it large enough to fit CR123 cells. I tried modding one of these flashlights last summer, to hold 3xCR123 and a 6 cell bulb. That one melted quick. I was hoping that the plastics would be able to handle the reduced heat of a 4 cell bulb.

I put the light together, and at first, it seemed OK. Running it for short bursts, I couldn't feel any significant heat around the head. I decided, if I really want to be able to use this light, I want it to run for 10 minutes continuous without melting.

So, I ran a test. I put a pair of fresh cells in the light, switched it on, and most of the time had it tailstanding on a table. I kept frequently checking the integrity of the lens. When I built the 3xCR123 light, the lens was the first thing to go. I was very satisfied when the new light went a full 10 minutes, and the lens never got soft or distorted.

Then I opened the light for inspection. The batteries were fine, slightly warm, but not hot. The bulb holder seemed OK. Then I looked at the reflector and saw this:

The facets are supposed to run all the way to the edge of the bulb. The areas that are smooth are actually parts that started to melt and warp. I then also discovered that the bulb holder is now crooked:

The spring pressure applied to the batteries had pushed the bulb holder up and off center. (As a side note, all these images were taken using a flatbed scanner. In the above picture, the object on the left is a gray mechanical pencil with a purple pocket clip which I put on the scanner to keep the bezel from rolling off.)

I did find out when I took the bulb out that there was a bit of warping that happened in the center of the lens. I couldn't see it with the bulb in.

Scratch another $4 light. At least it was cheap.

I was able to put the 2 cell bulb back in the light, pair it with a couple AA cells, and it still works. But with the warped reflector, there is a donut hole in the beam at any distance beyond 2 feet.

The picture of the light in the packaging earlier in this thread was actually taken after the melting instance. I try to keep original packaging intact in case I ever need to return something. Do you think Home Depot would take this back? It looks normal from the outside.:naughty:

Just for the record, no, I am not going to try to return it.:D

Now I am trying to think of plan B for a Brinkmann Maxfire XL substitute.

EssLight
 
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Lol, good kill. I've yet to find a suitable del cheapo host from the store that could take much more power than it came with for more than a minute or two. I'm still looking. The way I see it, if it can take a maglite bulb, it can take a Rop bulb :) Ya, so I melt lights sometimes too. I have a 2d/6aa plastic pink dora the explorer RopHi that I have yet to run for more than 30 seconds at a time. I guarantee it'd melt down, but I want to keep it around, it gets more enjoyment out of onlookers than most of my other machines. haha. Keep searching and post up if you can get one to hold the juice. If you can, I'll buy one and rop it. If it still holds up, we may have ourselves a winner for an edc tough/cheap light. :grin2:

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If you tried to return it, I'm sure they would take it back; but I am not saying that it is a good idea. I melted a 2XAA light with 3 CR123s as well. Mine lasted for around 15-20 minutes before it died though. I think it was a slightly higher quality cheap light though lol.
 
I have a 2d/6aa plastic pink dora the explorer RopHi that I have yet to run for more than 30 seconds at a time. I guarantee it'd melt down, but I want to keep it around, it gets more enjoyment out of onlookers than most of my other machines. haha.
:laughing: I like the idea of a Dora the Explorer ROP. I have a joke in mind to insert here, but it is not appropriate for this forum.

Keep searching and post up if you can get one to hold the juice. If you can, I'll buy one and rop it. If it still holds up, we may have ourselves a winner for an edc tough/cheap light. :grin2:
I'll keep looking, and depending what I find, either post success or another melted picture.

EssLight
 
Esslight, try a garity waterproof light. its 2AA and Im pretty sure the reflector is metal.It cant be modded to hold 123's though. you could put in 2 14500 li-ons.
 
Esslight, try a garity waterproof light. its 2AA and Im pretty sure the reflector is metal.It cant be modded to hold 123's though. you could put in 2 14500 li-ons.
Thanks for the suggestion. But I'm looking for something cheap to run on primaries. A pair of protected 14500s would cost around $20, my goal is total cost under $10. If I went the 14500 route, I would hotwire a minmag with a TL-3 bulb, so I could play "bet my minimag is brighter than yours" (with non-CPF members, of course).

I was looking around in Target yesterday, I saw three different cheap 2xAA lights that might be bored out for CR123s, but my guess is they all would melt. Which I might try doing eventually anyway...

EssLight
 
The light I used was an Ever-ready I think, (I will check tomorrow evening). It was black and partially red aluminum behind the head. Availible at Wally World. On a 2 cell setup it might not melt, but it melted on my 3 cell setup. I think it was $2-3.
 
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ESSLight,

I have had several black Wal-Mart no-name clones of your Eveready light. Discontinued now, my cost was $0.97. They have some of the best coated PR plastic reflectors I have ever seen.

Mine run on 2x AW original protected 14500 Li-Ions, driving (as i recollect) a 5D M@g stock bulb. Wonderful output and beam quality, but can melt in less than 10 minutes, and several have done so.
 
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