I've never visited there ('Underground'), and have no intention of doing so. That said, I find post 42 (and 44) to be of interest (personally), inform-ative, and if indeed an accurate account, also of value in understanding how the flashlight industry works, both here and abroad. If I were a schoolteacher, I would feel no differently, and if I had kids old enough to use this site, would think it of value to their understanding. Those posts are (apparently) 'factual', not opinion. That's an important distinction. Let's not overreact. Perhaps I missed an errant post somewhere, but am also not in favor of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Otherwise, if someone finds the facts of that story embarassing, then let them be embarrassed. Perhaps someone should be, but not likely anyone reading this thread. If there's a post in this thread that I'm neglecting that violates the TOS, let that be dealt with as provided for and as appropriate.