L2T vs L2D-CE Size Compairison and Beamshots incl. E2D & MN60

[AtomSphere]

The L2D ce is a bit longer and a wee bit wider
Side by Side compairision:

Is my L2D ce's head tunable? Can I adjust the focus? I can't seem to find any grooves to adjust the head.

Picture taking settings:
My camera cannot be set fully manual so the lighting is automatically adjusted. However, it gives you a rough idea of the brightness. All following pics except the last few are at -2.0 E.V. All flashlights are 9.5 inches from wall.

L2T Low vs L2D low

L2T Low vs L2D med

L2T Low vs L2D high

L2T Low vs L2D Turbo

L2T High vs L2D low

L2T High vs L2D med

L2T High vs L2D high

L2T High vs L2D turbo

E2D vs L2D Turbo

MN60 on M4 Variant using 3 rechargeable Li-Ions and a resistor to reduce the high current supplied by the Li-Ions to that of fresh CR123s

Normal Exposure (L2D on turbo)

-1.0 EV

-2.0 EV

HDR photograpgy truely brings out the shades in the HA. As you can see, it has a even and uniformed pure black coating.

Tint: Overall I have to say that the tint is much whiter and warmer which is quite consistent with most people's comments. Under Sunlight, it MIGHT look a wee bit purplish though but its hardly noticeable. My L2T's tint looks a bit greenish beside the L2D-CE. Comparing L2D in with the L2T, the L2D looks perfectly white.

Personal Comments: I thought my E2D was damn bright, Now it looks dim. I also though the L2T was kindda bright, but now its brightness is insignificant. I think I am getting blind:laughing:

Functions: SOS mode would be better off if it was faster and I don't find it useful. Strobe mode is well paced (fast).

Heat: After leaving both L2T(high) and L2D(turbo) on for 30minutes, the L2D felt a bit warmer to the touch compared to L2T. Will try measuring the current soon.

Body: The L2D is longer and a bit fatter. Now it cannot fit into my Minimag Holster. In addition, it stands perfectly on its tailcap unlike my L2T which wobbles a little bit.
I also noticed that both L2T and L2D tailcaps are interchangeable except the Heads. The L2D's switch is harder to compress than the L2T

Water Resistance: Dunked and spashed without problems. (15 minutes exposure to water)

 

[AtomSphere]

Visual Runtime Test and expanded description

Batteries used are Duracell's 2650mAH Ni-MH that was fully charged (greater than 1.4V) about 2 hours prior to test. Using eye and camera to note the moment it dropped from regulation.

Visual Runtime Test on Turbo:
TEST 1:
At 2Hours17minutes, visual noticeable, dramatic drop in regulation.
At 2Hours47minutes, Still has light but very weak.

TEST 2:
Using Duracell 2650mAH batteries at 1.44v. Room temp at 23C
At 2hours10minutes declination from turbo mode is observed on video camera playback.

Amp mesurement:
Not sure if I set up my multi-meter correctly. I switched the red wire to the 10Adc plug and turned the dial to the 10A function. Removed the tailcap and poked one probe on the cell and another on the battery tube's wall and the multimeter closes the circuit that way.

Turbo: 1.25Amp
High: 0.51Amp
Med: 0.21Amp
Low: 0.07Amp

Personnal COmment: I feel that it is practical to use High setting instead of Turbo because Turbo eats alot of power for not much additional brigtness to my eyes. I would minus off a few percent off the advertised runtime to get a more accurate time before drop in regulation.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

MY E2D puts out a fir amount of spill, But does that look the same in the pics, as it does to your eyes. Does the crees spill realy wash out the E2D's spill, or even spot.

My E2D spot can be put over the spot of my LED lights and kind of beat them, or wash them away, so to speak, but it looks like the cree is a real winner ther, whats the throw like compared to the E2D

 

[AtomSphere]

Yes the spill of the L2D wins an E2D with fresh Battery Station batteries. E2D has a wide angle spill beam while the L2D has a narrower range of spill. However, the L2D's spill's intensity is greater than the E2D at the same distance. Even when I adjusted the L2D's distance to make it have the same spill beam size on the wall, it seems that the L2D is a little brighter in the spill department. L2D's hotspot seem brighter too when the two hotspots are shown one atop the other.

Some Pics. Lights are a few inches from wall so that spill is more evident. Both lights are at same distance. Fresh battery for E2D

0 EV

-1 EV

-2 EV

Edited: Discovered Characteristics: When batteries are around 1.200v there is no visual difference between turbo and high and medium. Turbo and High mode seems bright for less than a second then it brightness dies down quickly to Medium. So basically, there are 2 brightness level which are Low and Medium if you exclude SOS and Strobe.

 

[WildChild]

I also noticed that! In fact, it is slighly brighter than medium but both turbo and high fall at the same level. I think this is a good thing because we are sure the batteries won't get overdischarged! This is a nice cut-off for NiMH batteries.

Yes the spill of the L2D wins an E2D with fresh Battery Station batteries. E2D has a wide angle spill beam while the L2D has a narrower range of spill. However, the L2D's spill's intensity is greater than the E2D at the same distance. Even when I adjusted the L2D's distance to make it have the same spill beam size on the wall, it seems that the L2D is a little brighter in the spill department. L2D's hotspot seem brighter too when the two hotspots are shown one atop the other.

Some Pics. Lights are a few inches from wall so that spill is more evident. Both lights are at same distance. Fresh battery for E2D

0 EV

-1 EV

-2 EV

Edited: Discovered Characteristics: When batteries are around 1.200v there is no visual difference between turbo and high and medium. Turbo and High mode seems bright for less than a second then it brightness dies down quickly to Medium. So basically, there are 2 brightness level which are Low and Medium if you exclude SOS and Strobe.

 

[clipse]

Dangit now I'll have to get one.

 

[T4R06]

here is my setup for E2D:
lumensfactory LA EO-E2R 150lms
with AW's 2 x ICR123 3.7V

it will definitely kill your L2D

 

[AtomSphere]

Sounds Intresting. Do you have a link for the mod or drop-in? Would like to check it out

Edited: found the link. Looks intresting but i am guessing it gets extremely hot after prolonged operation but the sweet idea is that incand has extremely lovely colour temperature and it will really will be a pocketable rocket.

Running 2nd runtime test on turbo. Updates on post #2

here is my setup for E2D:
lumensfactory LA EO-E2R 150lms
with AW's 2 x ICR123 3.7V

it will definitely kill your L2D

 

[chevrofreak]

here is my setup for E2D:
lumensfactory LA EO-E2R 150lms
with AW's 2 x ICR123 3.7V

it will definitely kill your L2D

The EO-E2R is 150 bulb lumens not 150 torch lumens. At the drive level the L2D CE is running at it is probably about 150 bulb lumens too.

I think "kill" is an exageration.

 

[Jasmes]

here is my setup for E2D:
lumensfactory LA EO-E2R 150lms
with AW's 2 x ICR123 3.7V

it will definitely kill your L2D

No it won't. :naughty:

 

[zapper]

I wasn't sure what to expect from my L2D. It's not centered so that may have something to do with that. I modded a Golston 7W with a VXOU LUX V and direct drive it with two RCR123 at about 800 mA. Thought it was pretty nice but nothing to compare with really. I love the fact that the L2D uses 2xAA and has variable outputs therefore meets my requirements. Great beem, not too tight but not too floody either. Impressive compared to other AA lights, but not a wow light to me. The LUX V mod puts out more overall light and throws the same if not more, with a bigger hotspot. Ofcourse, apples and oranges. The mod is only for searching outdoors and close to home or the charger. The L2D is for everything else!:touche:

 

[AtomSphere]

The EO-E2R is 150 bulb lumens not 150 torch lumens. At the drive level the L2D CE is running at it is probably about 150 bulb lumens too.

I think "kill" is an exageration.

Hi,

I just noticed you are doing runtimes on multiple flashlights on your sig

For your runtime test on L2D-CE, I am curious, we are using the same batteries yet your runtime is below 2 hours on turbo while mine is around 2h10min. BTW is my current measurement correct?

Thanks

Amp mesurement:
Not sure if I set up my multi-meter correctly. I switched the red wire to the 10Adc plug and turned the dial to the 10A function. Removed the tailcap and poked one probe on the cell and another on the battery tube's wall and the multimeter closes the circuit that way.

Turbo: 1.25Amp
High: 0.51Amp
Med: 0.21Amp
Low: 0.07Amp

 

[clipse]

Got my L2D-CE ordered this morning.

 

[AtomSphere]

Got my L2D-CE ordered this morning.

Congrates! 2 week or less from now, you will be lumen happy

 

[lumenal]

Hey Atomsphere - nice work. That takes alot of time and effort to post those photos and information, and, being an owner of an L2D CE, I really appreciate it! :goodjob:

This is such a great utility light; I use it all the time! I'm very pleased with this flashlight, I can't hardly put it down !

 

[AtomSphere]

Hey Atomsphere - nice work. That takes alot of time and effort to post those photos and information, and, being an owner of an L2D CE, I really appreciate it! :goodjob:

This is such a great utility light; I use it all the time! I'm very pleased with this flashlight, I can't hardly put it down !

Thanks its now my EDC and I am lovin it

Just wish I got a simple Digital Camera that can be used in manual mode

 

[NeoteriX]

I noticed the dip in "turbo" mode too after sometime, where turbo mode output is the same as high mode output. How does this jive with the runtime graphs done by Chevrofreak on flashlightreviews?

The dropoff seems pretty steep, but doesn't seem to reflect my usage. I've only seen it drop from turbo to high, and it seems to stay there for a little bit. I haven't personally ventured beyond that since I'm a little paranoid about damaging the cells running them too low.