Lumen Output: Pyranese vs Logan / El Cap

[Brasso]

Let me see if I can get this all straight.

I have read on here that all these lights use the same light engine. I have also seen from Curt that the El Cap is only 140 lumens (seems brighter to me) while the Pyranese is advertised at 225 lumens. I have also read somewhere that they are 300+ lumens.

Can someone who definately knows, confirm what the actual output of these lights are?

 

[Brasso]

Got the Pyraneese in. Thank you RMSK.

It does appear to have the same output as the narrow El Cap, but with a tighter beam. Pretty much a throw light. The beam is square shaped. I'm not sure why it's made this way, but it works fine. There's plenty of room in that tube. Probably to make room for that 18350 battery, but I'm afraid to use them since they're unprotected and I don't think the light has any over discharge protection.

Overall a nice light. As I said, the output between the Pyraneese and the narrow El Cap are very similar. On a ceiling bounce test they look identical. For an edc pocket light I think the El Cap would be more useful because of the increased spill. If you needed something strictly for outdoors or for a back-up duty roll, the size, clicky, and slightly tighter beam of the Pyraneese would win out. I was hoping it would be noticeably brighter than the El Cap, but honestly, the El Cap is a beast of a AA on 14500's which takes nothing away from the larger Pyraneese. One is a pocket light and the other is more of a small belt light.

 

[pmek5]

Got the Pyraneese in. Thank you RMSK.

Brasso,

Curious what body material you got (HA, Brass, etc.), and if you you got the multi tail switch, and how that works. I've been wondering what the best small pure thrower Peak offers would be (apart from the law enforcement series). Have you tried the El Cap & Pyraneese outside to compare throw distance? For my next light, I am looking for a small thrower.
Thanks for the info on this light!

 

[Brasso]

I didn't get the multi output tail switch. I'm not even sure they are available. I got mine in Brass. From what I can tell from using both the narrow El Cap and Pyraneese outside tonight, there isn't much difference in throw out to about 75ft. The El Cap has more spill. Once you get out to 100+ feet you can start to see a difference in the Pyraneese. I spent a lot of time debating whether to get the Pyraneese or the Rainier. There is just so little info comparing the lights. The day after I ordered the Pyraneese, hours actually, we finally got some good beam shots of the Rainier. I think I would have preferred the Rainier because I like floody lights more, but I was afraid that the Rainier wouldn't be any brighter than the current El Caps and Logans. I was wrong. The Pyraneese will still be a useful light for me as a backup duty light. It's small, but just big enough to fill the hand and the clicky is nice. I would still prefer it came with a momentary as that black rubber and delrin clashes with the nice shiny brass and adds a bit more length. It's not any brighter than my xpg modded HDS Clicky, but the simpler UI of the Peak appeals to me for certain roles. I'll probably carry both. The Pyraneese is about 1/4" taller than an El Cap with a momentary. I would compare the beam of the Pyraneese more to something like a Surefire TIR optic, except square. I don't have a Logan, but if it's similar to the narrow El Cap, then I think that will be the throw master in the small class. I'm guessing the beam of the Logan is somewhere between the narrow El Cap and the Pyraneese. I'm tempted to get one but the ability to use AA's in the Cap keeps me from pulling the trigger.

I'm a pretty big Peak fan due to the simple UI's and robust construction, even though I wish they would make some multi mode lights too.

 

[jssp78]

If you wait for the volcan to be released they will be in aaa,aa and cr2. The opric will be the same as the logan. Price will be the same as the logan.

 

[pmek5]

Brasso,

Thanks for the additional info. The brass Pyrenees is beautiful, but I agree the black tail switch really detracts alot. I don't think that would change my mind though, since the brass head is a work of art on this one. The only other small possible thrower I am looking into right now is the Malkoff MD2 with the M60, M61. I am not even sure how good a throw it has, but is equal in lumens. I too am a big Peak fan, and like supporting our US manufacturers.

 

[DUMDUM]

Brasso glad you like the Pyrenees and the multi switch is available. It is on the website. The switch does use some power to run. It works better with an RCR or an 18350, even though the 350 is not protected since it is used in a single battery light I don't believe that it is an issue.

Thanks again
Bob

 

[Brasso]

Thanks. Is the light brighter with the larger capacity 18350 or 18500? I've been using some well used 650mah RCR's.

After looking at the ceiling some more, I think I know why the beam is square. I believe what I'm seeing is the led itself. The window in the optic is big enough to project the entire led die. There's a definate round hotspot with a slighter dimmer square halo around it. Only noticeable on a white wall. And I think my El Cap is actually ever so slightly brighter when doing a ceiling bounce. Hard to say since they're so close. Probably just the "luxeon lottery" in effect.

 

[DUMDUM]

Its no brighter long as you have the 3.7 volts that's about as bright as it gets, but you have much better run time. RCR 880ma 18350 1200ma 18500 1600ma. Yup you get those close wall shots and you don't get the best effect, like rings and dies etc.
Bob

 

[DUMDUM]

The Pyrenees is still a great backup duty light. I wish I would have had that many choices when I was in law enforcement. It was awhile ago.
Bob

 

[Brasso]

Definately. It's a perfect combination of size and output for a back up. Simple On / Off. Like an L1 on crack! I almost got some 18350's. Next time I order something I'll have to get some.

 

[Brasso]

FYI,

The reason the beam is square is because the optic is too close to the led. I've cut out a plastic donut from a water bottle cap to fit underneath the optic and it rounded out the beam very nicely. Made it into a narrow El Cap type beam.

Way cool light. Now if we could talk Curt into bumping up to about 1.5amps and a neutral xpg....

My dome just fell off. $85 down the drain.

 

[yowzer]

You all are doing a pretty good job of talking me into getting a Pyrenees as my second Peak, instead of the #0 Eiger or something from the Night Patrol/First Response series. Curse you.

Hmm. I'd have to get the brass to avoid confusion with my aluminum K2...

 

[DUMDUM]

Yowzer the night patrol with the combat body is not a whole lot bigger than the Pyrenees,
the advantage is that it can handle alot more voltage and power. A single cr light at 3.7 volts
driving the same LED even when regulated is not near as bright. The night Patrol series can handle that with a larger
heat sink. Its only .25 on an inch larger in the head, that also gives a 26.5mm optic instead of a 20mm.
BTW we just might have a brass NP out by next month.
Bob