M*G Mod Voltage leakage

ThumperIII

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While waiting for my final components to arrive, I was breadboarding different circuits, just to test the light output and V & A values I got with different components. I found I was reading a small voltage in the circuit when the switch was OFF. I read 0.006V across the leads with a Fluke 73 DMM.
My setup is a 3D M*g body and tailcap. The stock switch was removed, trimmed off lamp pedestal and excess Neg strap, soldered on 22ga leads and reassembled. The leads were extended out the front so I could test attach different circuits. A P7 LED with leads was mounted in an alum reflector w/ arctic alumina (enough heatsink for short runs). Wire is 22ga, 19 strand, low resistance, silver tinned. Three Titanium brand 12000mAh NiMH D cells. Three different circuits were tried: 4*7135, 2 x 4*7135, and a 1A multi-mode driver. When the circuits were complete and main switch was OFF, a .006V (steady) was read across the leads (between the switch and the first component) with all circuits. The polarity of the current changed when I reversed the probes. With any circuit attached but broken open at one connection, the voltage constantly fluctuated 0.004 - 0.018 V and reversed polarity with the probes. Just the leads from the switch with no components 0.004 - 0.134V and reverses with probe switch. A meter check of just touching the probes together gives .000VDC steady reading. Everything seems clean and dry. No dirt, visible residue or lubes (except at threads of tailcap, which was same for all tests). Any ideas about how these electrons are sneaking through? Or is it in the meter? Picked up from fluorescent fixture by long layout leads? Can the components of even an open circuit act as a stabilizing ballast? Thanks for any clarification.
 
I'm not sure that you are actually seeing anything. If the switch is open, then you shouldn't have anything. Were you holding the probe points and the wires with your fingers? (sorry, had to ask) Can you check amperage draw in series across the tailcap? Can your meter read Micro Amps?
 
a LED is nothing else than a solar cell. If you shine light onto it, it will generate electricity. Since the driver has some resistance the generated voltage won't be that high.
If only the LED is connected to the dmm then something between 1.5V to 3.5V ( the forward voltage) can be measured.
 
OK. Good chance this was a phat phinger phantom signal. After I initially thought I had read a voltage, I just did a finger pinch of the probe and lead. What threw me was I hadn't expected a pos/neg phantom reading would follow suit when I reversed the probes or to hold steady for up to a 30 second test. Typically, I am used to measuring much grosser voltages - where hundredths or thousandths weren't relevant (or the meter used wasn't capable of detecting it).
Unless I find my batteries going dead I won't worry.

The diode effect of the LED could account for consistent pos/neg readings with me as a sink on the other lead. Hence, the continual fluctuation found on the switch leads with no circuit attached.

Thanks for thinking for me. :duh2:
 
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