Malkoff LED drop-in for Surefires Spec List

NotRegulated

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The Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires have really expanded. I put together a simple chart in order to keep up with all the spec’s such as lumens and runtime. The chart is based on the information advertised for each LED on the Malkoff Devices website as of 2/5/2009 (updated 12/22/2012) as well as the IlluminationSupply and Oveready websites.
All models are specifically designed to be used with Surefire flashlights but may or may not work in other brand lights as well.
It appears that any of the models designated as Low Output (L, LL, LLL or LLLL) are safe bets to use in Nitrolon lights such as the Surefire G2, G2Z, G3, etc.
Website wording: "Note: This drop-in module is intended to operate for extended periods in metal or plastic lights."

Updated 1-10-2016.
Thank you to the CPF members who PM'd me regarding typo's and changes to the original chart, most notably FroggyTaco, Inliner, etc, Replicant, and donn.


Major Link Update
Added INFRNL's comprehensive
actual run time results, graphed for almost every currently available Malkoff module in just about every configuration possible.
The data in my charts listed is what was published on the Malkoff Devices website product page at the time. INFRNL's thread looks to be the most definitive and comprehensive set of data for Malkoff modules to date. Bravo!
LINK HERE:
Malkoff Runtime Graphs - CR123/Alkaline Comparo

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Prototype
P7 D26 dropin - Not a regular item. Special order only.
6-29-08. Gene Malkoff's first P7 info post
12-1-08. First look at the Proto P7 - Post with Pics by CPF member "gsnorm"

9-10-12. Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium thread is here.

Beamshots:

LINK BROKEN --- 12-19-08. M60L vs M60 vs M60W by CPF member "wacbzz" (with Animated GIFs)
LINK BROKEN --- 5-28-2008 M60F beamshot by CPF member "Wattnot"
2-27-2010 M60 vs M61 by CPF member PoliceScannerMan


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L= Low
LL=Low Low
LLL= Low, Low, Low
LLLL= Low, Low, Low, Low

F= Flood
W=Warm


Link to M30 & M60 Runtimes on rechargeables HERE

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History/Development Timeline

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LEDLumensMfr. Published RuntimeTested RuntimeOpticInput VoltageDrawCRIPrice/Year
M60 Aluminum


Cree XRE 7090, Q2 bin, WG tint[email protected]2-3 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDUNK3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$49
10/2007
(picture)
M60 BrassCree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint[email protected]1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDKhatod 6 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$60
3/2008
(picture)
M60 BrassCree XRE 7090[email protected]1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)Cree 8 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
8/2008
M60L
Low

Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint[email protected]4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDKhatod 6 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$60
3/2008
M60L
Low

Cree XRE 7090[email protected]4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBD Cree 8 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
9/2008
M60LF
Low Flood
Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint[email protected]4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBD Khatod 25 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
8/2008
M60LF
Low Flood
Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint[email protected]4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 20 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
3/2009
M60LL
Low Low


Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint[email protected]8 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDKhatod 6 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$60
3/2008
M60LL
Low Low
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]8 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 8 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
9/2008
M60F
Flood
XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint[email protected]1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDKhatod 25 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
8/2008
M60F
Flood
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 20 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Cool White$55
9/2008
M60WF
Warm Flood
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 20 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Warm$55
3/2009
M60WL
Warm Low
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 8 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Warm$55
3/2009
M60 WLF
Warm Low Flood
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 20 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Warm$55
3/2010
M60W
Warm
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 8 degree optic3.8v-9v[email protected]Warm$55
2/2009
M60 MC-E
(Flood)
Cree MC-E Quad Die LED[email protected]45 min on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 20 degree optic5v-13v[email protected]Cool White$125
11/2009
M60W MC-E
Warm Flood
Cree MC-E Quad Die LED[email protected]45 min on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDCree 20 degree optic5v-13v[email protected]Warm$125
11/2009
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LEDLumensMfr. Published RuntimeTested RuntimeOpticInput VoltageDrawCRIPrice/Year
M61Cree XP-G[email protected]2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Cool White$69
8/2010
M61
Cree XP-G2[email protected]1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish
3.4v-9v
[email protected]Cool White
$55
7/2014
M61
Cree XP-G2
[email protected]
1.25 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBD
custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]
Cool White
6200K
$44
02/2019
M61
Luminous SST-20
[email protected]
1.25 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)
TBD
custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]
Cool White
5700K
$46
10/2020
M61 219B Nichia
(Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
Nichia NVSL219BT[email protected]1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Neutral
4500K
92CRI
$52
10/2014
M61L
Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Cool White$69
8/2010
M61L
Low
Cree XP-G2[email protected]5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Cool White$59
9/2014
M61LL
Low Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Cool White$69
8/2010
M61LL
Low Low
Cree XP-G2[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Cool White$59
9/2014
M61LL 219B
Low Low Nichia
(Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
Nichia NVSL219BT[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Neutral
4500K
92CRI
$55
03/2015
M61LLL 219B
Low Low Low Nichia (Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
Nichia NVSL219BT[email protected]10+ hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Neutral
4000K
93CRI
$59
11/2018
M61W
Warm
Cree XP-G[email protected]2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm$69
12/2010
M61W
Warm
Cree XP-G[email protected]2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
3700K
80CRI
$59
1/2013
M61W
Warm
Cree XP-G2[email protected]1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
3000K
80CRI
$59
08/2014
M61N
Neutral
Cree XP-G2[email protected]1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
4000K
$59
10/2014
M61N
Neutral
Cree XP-G2[email protected]1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
4000K
80 CRI
$61
05/2018
M61NL
Neutral Low
Cree XP-G2[email protected]5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
4000K
$59
10/2014
M61NL
Neutral Low
Cree XP-G2[email protected]5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
4000K
80CRI
$61
05/2018
M61NLL
Neutral Low Low
Cree XP-G2[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
4000K
80CRI
$61
05/2018
M61WLL
Warm Low Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm$69
12/2010
M61WLL
Warm Low Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
3700K
80CRI
$59
1/2013
M61WLL
Warm Low Low
Cree XP-G2[email protected]10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
3000K
80CRI
$59
09/2015
M61WL
Warm Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm$75
03/2011
M61WL Warm LowCree XP-G[email protected]5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-9v[email protected]Warm
3700K
80CRI
$59
1/2013
M61HO
High Output
Cree XP-G[email protected]1.25-1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Cool White$75
06/2012
M61SHO
Super High Output
Cree XP-G2[email protected]-45 mins on 2 CR123's (6v)
-2.5 hrs on 3 CR123's (9v)
-3hrs on 4 CR123's (12v)
various batteriescustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool White$69
01/2013
M61SHO
Super High Output
Cree XP-G2[email protected]-no data on 2 CR123's (6v)
-2.25hrs on 3 CR123's (9v)
-3hrs on 4 CR123's (12v)
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12vno published dataCool White$69
10/2014
M61 SHO 219B
Super High Output Nichia
(Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
Nichia NVSL219BT[email protected]2 hrs on 3 CR123's (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Neutral
4500K
92CRI
$52
05/2015
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LEDLumensMfr. Published RuntimeTested RuntimeOpticInput VoltageDrawCRIPrice/Year
M30Cree XRE 7090[email protected]
[email protected]
1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v)TBDCree 8 degree optic1-5.5vTBDCool White$55
12/2008
M30F
Flood
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]
[email protected]
1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v)TBDCree 20 degree optic1-5.5vTBDCool White$55
12/2008
M30W
Warm
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]
[email protected]
1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v)TBDCree 8 degree optic1-5.5vTBDWarm$55
12/2008
M30WF
Warm Flood
Cree XRE 7090[email protected]
[email protected]
1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v)TBDCree 20 degree optic1-5.5vTBDWarm$55
12/2008
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Model
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LEDLumensMfr. Published RuntimeTested RuntimeOpticInput VoltageDrawCRIPrice/Year
M31Cree XP-G[email protected]
[email protected]
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v1 Amp at 3v
1.4 Amps at 2.4v
Cool White$69
12/2010
M31Cree XP-G2[email protected]
[email protected]
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v1 Amp at 3v
1.4 Amps at 2.4v
Cool White$69
09/2014
M31 219B
Nichia
(Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
Nichia NVSL219BT[email protected]not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v1.1 Amps at 3vNeutral
4500K
92CRI
$52
02/2015
M31W
Warm
Cree XP-G[email protected]
[email protected]
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v1 Amp at 3v
1.4 Amps at 2.4v
Warm$69
12/2010
M31W
Warm
Cree XP-G[email protected]
[email protected]
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v1 Amp at 3v
1.4 Amps at 2.4v
Warm
3700K
80CRI
$69
1/2013
M31W
Warm
Cree XP-G[email protected]
[email protected]
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v1 Amp at 3v
1.4 Amps at 2.4v
Warm
3000K
80CRI
$69
9/2014
M31LL
Low Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.0v[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool White$69
3/2011
M31WL Warm LowCree XP-G[email protected]not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.0v[email protected]
[email protected]
Warm$69
6/2011
M31WL Warm LowCree XP-G[email protected]not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v[email protected]
[email protected]
Warm
3700K
80CRI
$69
6/2013
M31L
Low
Cree XP-G[email protected]not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool White$69
12/2014
M31L 219B Low Low Nichia
(Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
Nichia NVSL219BT[email protected]not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish.08-3.3v[email protected]Neutral
4500K
92CRI
$52
03/2015
M361 Low-Med-HighCree XP-G2Low 15
Medium 80
High 400
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-6v[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
6200K
$69
6/2013
M361N
Neutral Low-Med-High
Cree XP-G2Low 15
Medium 75
High 375
not stated.
varies.
TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish3.4v-6v[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Warm Neutral
4000K
$69
6/2013
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LEDLumensMfr. Published RuntimeTested RuntimeOpticInput VoltageDrawCRIPrice/Year
M91
(very floody)
Cree XM-L[email protected]
450 continuous
1 1/5 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish6.5v-12v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
$125
5/2011
M91W Warm
(very floody)
Cree XM-L[email protected]
400 continuous
1 1/5 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish6.5v-12v[email protected]
[email protected]
Warm
3500K
80CRI
$125
5/2011
M91A
flood
Cree XM-L[email protected]
650 continuous
1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
$125
10/2012
M91AW
Warm
Cree XM-L2[email protected]
625 continuous
1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]
[email protected]
Warm
3000K
80CRI
$89
07/2013
M91BCree XP-L[email protected]
700 continuous
Lux [email protected] meter
1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Cool
White
6200K
$89
05/2014
M91BCree XP-L[email protected]
900 continuous
Lux [email protected] meter
45-60 min on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Cool
White
6200K
$89
05/2018
M91BW
Warm
Cree XP-L[email protected]
575 continuous
1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Warm
3000K
80CRI
$89
12/2014
M91BW
Warm
Cree XP-L[email protected]
790 continuous
45-60 min on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Warm
3000K
80CRI
$89
05/2018
M91T
Throw. (Fits in Surefire M series with MDM4 adaptor)
Cree XP-L HI[email protected]
750 continuous
Lux 19,[email protected] meter
30-45 min on 3 CR123 (9v)TBDcustom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish5.5v-12v[email protected]Cool White$149.99 wi th MDM4 adaptor.
$160-$200 complete light
09/2018
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LEDLumensMfr. Published RuntimeTested RuntimeOpticInput VoltageDrawCRIPrice/Year
MD60
for Surefire turbo head weapon lights
Cree XM-L LED[email protected]1 3/4 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)
2 1/4 hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
3 hrs on Surefire M6
TBDnone.
Utilizes Surefire Turbo Head reflector
6.5v-14v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
$119
12/2011
MD60 for Surefire turbo head weapon lightsCree XM-L2 LED[email protected]1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v)
1.5 hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
2 hrs on Surefire M6
TBDnone.
Utilizes Surefire Turbo Head reflector
6.5v-14v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
6200K
$89
06/2014
MD10 for Surefire weapon lightsCree XP-G[email protected]2 1/2 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)
3hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
TBDnone.
Utilizes Surefire Head reflector
6.5v-14v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
$99
12/2011
MD10 for Surefire weapon lightsCree XP-G[email protected]2 1/2 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)
3hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
TBDnone.
Utilizes Surefire Head reflector
6.5v-14v[email protected]
[email protected]
Cool
White
$89
07/2014

 
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bullfrog

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

Wow - nice work! :twothumbs

We could really use a "Malkoff Info Repository" thread complete with your info (and the M30 varieties)!

Also, would be nice to see the estimated runtimes for each battery type since there are just so many darn ways to run these monsters! :naughty:

I'm actually wondering what to expect on the M60W with 2x AW's IMR 18650s :D

Again, thanks for your work!!!
 

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

NotRegulated, nice job! Why not edit your post to add all the M30's. There's a lot of interest in these new drop-ins lately. Thanks!
 

NotRegulated

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

NotRegulated, nice job! Why not edit your post to add all the M30's. There's a lot of interest in these new drop-ins lately. Thanks!


thanks guys.
I have a great spreadsheet all formatted with both the M60 and M30 info but after several attempts I have been unable to post the info in an organized manner like a table format. Do you know if that can be done? It would make it much more readable.
 
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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

Tedious and imprecise, but similar to how the registries do it:

Model.....Lumens.....Runtime @ 6v.....optic..........input voltage..........current draw
M60........235............1:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............750ma
M60L......140.............4:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............350ma
 

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

Tedious and imprecise, but similar to how the registries do it:

Model.....Lumens.....Runtime @ 6v.....optic..........input voltage..........current draw
M60........235............1:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............750ma
M60L......140.............4:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............350ma


I like the current draw info and this layout. It helps me estimate my runtime with my application. Also, you can put the Malkoff P7 drop-in:twothumbs:twothumbs:twothumbs
 

NotRegulated

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

Tedious and imprecise, but similar to how the registries do it:

Model.....Lumens.....Runtime @ 6v.....optic..........input voltage..........current draw
M60........235............1:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............750ma
M60L......140.............4:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............350ma

thanks. This works much better.
 

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

I just have to say that these drop ins are outstanding... his mag drop ins are outstanding too.
 

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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

The info is not on Malkoff's website yet. Do you have it?

No,
but I should have my P7 drop-in from Gene this weekend.

He said it will make 600 to 700 lumens on direct drive. I told him I would be using a single 18650 cell, so my guess is the voltage is limited from 1-5v. I will ask him and report back.:D
 

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The first post states that the M60L and LL should be safe to run in Nitrolon G2 and G3 flashlights. Is there any official word on that? I've emailed Malkoff and have not yet received a reply.

My goal is to get an M60 and run it in an aluminum bezel G3 with an extra cell adaptor and 2x 17670s. I am required to use a plastic flashlight at work, so I can't just go with a 9p. My question is: What is the specific dangers in using an M60 in an aluminum bezeled nitrolon light? I know the theorectical danger of overheating, but is there a guideline?

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-John
 

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Great work putting it together. I don't suppose you could do the same for the Mag drop-ins? A quick reference guide like this would be helpful for those like me looking to mod a mag.

Thanks and nice work,

-JB
 

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There isn't a guideline as such - at least not one I've seen.

I run an M60 in a G3 and I've never had an overheat issue - but then again, I don't run prolonged periods either.

-Trevor
 

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The first post states that the M60L and LL should be safe to run in Nitrolon G2 and G3 flashlights. Is there any official word on that? I've emailed Malkoff and have not yet received a reply.

From the Malkoff Devices website:

Note: This drop-in module was intended to operate at maximum brightness for tactical usage similar to the original setup. Operating the unit for more than 15 continuous minutes in plastic lights may cause damage to the drop-in module. This is not an issue in metal lights.

My experience with the M60L, no heat issues whatsoever.
 

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From the Malkoff Devices website:

Note: This drop-in module was intended to operate at maximum brightness for tactical usage similar to the original setup. Operating the unit for more than 15 continuous minutes in plastic lights may cause damage to the drop-in module. This is not an issue in metal lights.

My experience with the M60L, no heat issues whatsoever.


The exceptions are the M60L, M60LF, M60WL, M60WLF and M60LL. The Malkoff Website states,
"Note: This drop-in module is intended to operate for extended periods in metal or plastic lights."
 

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The question is how Gene rates the "hybrid" metal/plastic G2/G3 lights. I asked him at one point last year and I think he considered them equal to the all-aluminum lights, but to be very honest I don't recall with certainty. It isn't a real issue for me so I didn't store the answer. Someone could email or call Gene to get definitive word on that.
 

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The Malkoff P7 drop-in I have ran with no noticeable drop for at least 1 hour. It then started dropping, but at 2 hours it was still bright, just not 700 lumens.

I used protected DX 18650's Trustfire.
I also used the P7 in a single 16340 set-up in my Pentagon PX1 and It ran for exactly 15 minutes before I started to see a drop in output.
 
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Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

I have a great spreadsheet all formatted with both the M60 and M30 info but after several attempts I have been unable to post the info in an organized manner like a table format. Do you know if that can be done? It would make it much more readable.

Take a screenshot of your spreadsheet page, edit/resize accordingly then host it & post it up (see below) :D


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