Medicare $ used to subsidize EV's

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Ocelot808

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Redirecting the "savings".... as if prescription drug price caps have ANY relation to EV subsidies? Just our government playing sleazy shell games with our hard earned tax revenue. It is repugnant and embarrassing that it is status quo for the legislature. Such a massive tangled web of deceptive practices. With no clear path to right the wrongs.
 

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Like i've said before, people who have no interest in getting an ev end up paying for them so someone else can "save" money.

I'm a huge EV fan (We own a Mach-E in additional to our Gas F150) and I'm also a giant solar fan (Got 17kw on the roof)

But honestly, the tax credits don't really make any sense to me for the benefit of general people. I got 26% of $52,000 install back in tax credit, over $13,000. Do I like getting all that free money? Of course. But, should tax credits be going to people with disposable income that can afford a big solar install?

I'd like that tax credit to go to new homeowners instead
 

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I'm a huge EV fan (We own a Mach-E in additional to our Gas F150) and I'm also a giant solar fan (Got 17kw on the roof)

But honestly, the tax credits don't really make any sense to me for the benefit of general people. I got 26% of $52,000 install back in tax credit, over $13,000. Do I like getting all that free money? Of course. But, should tax credits be going to people with disposable income that can afford a big solar install?

I'd like that tax credit to go to new homeowners instead
I agree. And even worse these aren't even refundable tax credits. I'm going to get solar eventually but the tax credits are nearly worthless to us. NYS has its own tax credit for solar. Problem with both that, and the federal tax credit, is they're non-refundable. Since my mother usually only has about $1,000 in federal income tax liability, along with three years max to claim all the solar credit, we'll miss out on much of it unless we spend less than about $10K for a system. Neither of us have, or will have, NYS/NYC income tax liability. Those credits are worthless to us.

It's ironic because poor and lower middle class people are ones who would benefit the most from things like solar but many miss out on the credits due to lack of enough income tax liability. Same with EVs. Electricity prices here are only going one way. I figure we'll need a roughly 6 kW system for all our needs except heating. If we go with a goethermal heat pump, then maybe twice that. I guess I'll just wait for lower prices and more efficient panels, along with doing as much of the install myself as I can. If we get panels of twice the present efficiency covering the garage roof in them will give me around 12 kW. Hopefully by then we'll also have geothermal heating which can directly replace the boiler in a hydronic heating system, while leaving the rest of the system (which works fine) intact.

Tax credits should be reserved for those of limited income who otherwise couldn't afford these things at all.
 

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This is disgusting. In the last year, prescription health insurance for MediCal (California) has shifted to a separate insurance company that is more of a pain to deal with. All over the counter prescriptions have to be of the store company brand and you have to get a special override from the insurance company if they are unable to acquire them after a long while. More recently, you seem to have to get prior authorization to even get over the counter prescriptions covered. Then once you get it, the pharmacy still won't have it, so you have to get an override. When that doesn't work, you have to shop around for pharmacies that carry your prescription in the covered brand. Repeat for each prescription. You don't have to go through all these hoops for non over the counter medications because they consider them more of a priority. The prior authorizations have taken up so much of the doctors' time that the specialists are avoiding patients other than for procedures. Nurse practitioners are seeing the patients for specialists and filling out the prior authorizations (or their manager) incomplete. That gets the patient started on the medications without them doing much work, but then the patients get denial letters for the prior authorization. The specialist refuses to fill out the paperwork correctly, and throws the patient under the bus with the paperwork and the paperwork gets dumped on their primary doctor. So because of this savings, the patient can't get their prescription and never sees an actual doctor when going to a specialist. I suggest some of this money saved get used to lock up these crazy people, that are mandating exploding expensive battery powered cars on everybody, in an insane asylum.
 

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Nothing those crooks do surprises me anymore. This is typical. Very very few politicians are trustworthy. Even then, "trust but verify".

Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
 
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