Mini-review: MTE C2 70601 (multi-stage) and MTE 42180 (single) World's best bargains?

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I recently picked up a quantity of these for a group project and am stunned at their quality vs. cost ratio. Let me tell you about these Seoul AA lights that are much like the Fenix or Ultrafire designs. Both have identical looking bodies with slightly different bezel markings to differentiate which is which.

The 70601 is $16 and holds its own against lights many times the price. The beam has typical Seoul characteristics, bright, very neutral white, with a very smooth transition from spot to fill. The Seouls are my favorites these days. No ringyness like the CREEs. Maybe very slightly less bright than my new Fenix L1T 2.0 Rebel, but it also has a much cleaner color beam, if comparing side to side. It also has a much lower low. In general, the recent Rebels have a slight edge in brightness but the Seoul is king for clean whites, at least in my experience.

The 70601 has five modes, easily clicked through with just a light press on the tailcap clicky. The feature I love is that when turned off, it will always come back on at the last setting. This puts this light ahead of much of the competition and is a very important feature to me. I'm not crazy about the strobe and SOS modes but this light is like Fenix, Jetbeam and other models these days that insist on five choices, rather than just two or three.

The only negative at all on the 70601 is the protruding tailcap, which prohibits candle stand mode. Sames goes for the single stage 42180. (And lights 5x the price like the excellent Amilite NEO T5.)

What a fantastic little light. I'm amazed at the $16 price ($1 more if buying less than three.) For this price, you get no fancy packaging, no extra o-rings either, but the light comes well lubed and works like a charm.

The single stage 42180 is simplicity itself. Much like the joy found in the original Fenix L1P. Yet this light is far brighter. The tailcap is firm but that's no big deal. It's as bright as the 70601 on high. Both lights come with a small lanyard and are likely HA2 coated with a very nice black luster finish. Its $12 and change if you buy three and about $14 if you buy just one. (!)

Along with these, you'll find similarly priced lights out there with CREE and Rebel emitters available from those two well known Asian dealers on CPF. The CREES have ringyness and artifacts issues and the early Rebel versions of these particular lights are getting mixed reviews with purple color shifts noticed at the low settings, an improper reflector alignment. No such problems with these Seoul SSC-4 emitters.

Time to back up the truck for holiday gifts. So, as you guessed, these lights get my vote as the world's best bargains!
 
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There are some threads about these lights and the 42180 has a very crappy flaky switch. I didn't pay attention to whether the multistage one has similar problems. Other than that, yes, these lights are good value, if you're willing to take the time modding them so they work reliably, and if you have suitable AA's (NiMH or lithium) to run them. I think they're not a good choice for gifts because 1) they are too flaky; and 2) a non-flashaholic who receives an AA light will probably run it on alkalines, which won't work well in these lights because of the power draw.
 
Yes, both lights have the same switch. Have tested 16 of them and only one had a switch issue so the odds are good! They're workin' well indeed on alkalines but have not been tested for duration yet. For a gift, I'd think it'd be quite the hit but to each his own. . .

These are quite solidly built IMO. What would a mod due to aid reliability? What kind of mod did you have in mind?

cheers :)
 
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With all 3 of my 42180s, I hit the contacts in the head with some rubbing alcohol on a q-tip. It made one brighter, stopped another flickering, and brought the third back from the dead.
 
Just a notice guys....

the one SINGLE mode i got from DX has the same body with the multimode...even the same lettering. Switch is firm too hard for a woman but functions very well. I ahev dissasenled it and it good.

enjoy, kostas
 
Just a notice guys....

the one SINGLE mode i got from DX has the same body with the multimode...even the same lettering. Switch is firm too hard for a woman but functions very well. I ahev dissasenled it and it good.

enjoy, kostas
I received five of the single mode (MTE 42180) lights from DX yesterday. They all came with the appropriate labeling and have the body style shown in the GITD tailcap (cool mod!) shots. The lights came lubed, but I cleaned and lubed them anyway. One of the lights has a slightly flatter tailcap; so far there have been no issues with the switches. These lights run well on both NiMH and alkaline batteries. I do not have the tools to completely disassemble one, so the tailcap mod will have to wait. Otherwise, I am inclined to agree with the original poster, this light is an excellent value!
 
The single stage is a nice light at a bargain price. I posted a thread about this light a couple months ago and got a lot of great feedback from others who had tried it. A winner for sure.

The problem for me with the multi stage is that the output values are too close together. The medium is not much different from the high, and the low is not very low. I can try to post the numbers I have seen before about this, but the Ultrafire has a much more useful variation in their output levels.

Here: DX for the MTE High (100%) > Mid (60%) > Low (40%) @
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4896
Kai for the Ultrafire (High: 200 Lumens / Medium: 50 Lumens / Low: 11 Lumens)
@ https://www.kaidomain.com/WEBUI/ProductDetail.aspx?TranID=2766

I am aware that the numbers posted may not be accurate, but the relative brightness levels for each light are in agreement with reviews I have read.
 
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With all 3 of my 42180s, I hit the contacts in the head with some rubbing alcohol on a q-tip. It made one brighter, stopped another flickering, and brought the third back from the dead.
MY 42180 had loctite on the head threads and I cannot get the head off. From what I've read I think MTE is doing that as standard now.
The light is 1/8" longer than my L1P and about 1/4" longer than the Civictor. Will fit in my spare Civictor holster but sticks out a bit.
 
Interestingly, my four year old daughter found a spare rear MTE cap and screwed it onto a Fenix L2P body. It fit perfectly. I slipped on a head and it works like a charm. So good to know that caps are interchangeable with earlier Fenix models like L1P, L2P, L1T first generation, etc.

EDIT-my fenix tailcap on the multimode version didn't work but did on the single mode version.
 
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I've had both of these for about 2 months and would agree that they are awesome lights for the money. Both of mine function perfect, have great tint, a flawless beam and are silly bright for a 1AA. My 5 mode will tail stand, single mode will not. White wall hunters will love these! These have a nice hotspot and great spill.
 
The bodies on mine are different. They match the pics on the DX website. The 5 mode is a little shorter. Sounds like your 5 mode came with the 1 mode body. Tail caps do not interchange on mine. I do like how the tailcap sticks out a little on the 1 mode body, makes it easier to operate.
 
Interestingly, my four year old daughter found a spare rear MTE cap and screwed it onto a Fenix L2P body. It fit perfectly. I slipped on a head and it works like a charm. So good to know that caps are interchangeable with earlier Fenix models like L1P, L2P, L1T first generation, etc.

EDIT-my fenix tailcap on the multimode version didn't work but did on the single mode version.

That's too cool - that is your 4 year old daughter - a budding female flashaholic modder!! :laughing: :twothumbs:
 
That's too cool - that is your 4 year old daughter - a budding female flashaholic modder!! :laughing: :twothumbs:

Yep, she's pretty industrious.She's a tough but sweet flashlight lovin' tomboy at this stage in life.
 
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Just got my MTE single stage SSC P4 42180-U last week.

Pro:
- Quite bright. Slightly brighter than Ultrafire C3 Cree P4
- Well made. I see nothing that bad about it. (No lubing at thread though)
- LED perfectly centered. Glass lense. Smooth plastic reflector
- Very white. Quite neutral. No noticeable blue tint whatsoever.

Bad:
- Clickie is a bit flat and not easy to press.
- Head and tail switch both seems to be glued at the thread.
- Rolls off the table if laid flat. Well, seems most are like this though.
- Tail switch has too much resistence. Could be brighter with better switch.
- Does not tail stand stably. With GIDT tail cap, it totally does not tailstand.

Comments:
Get a better tail switch or make your own or bypass it altogether by mod.
It will make it around 20% or so brighter. I guarantee it. It did for many.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=164016

Apparently, it becomes MUCH brighter if used with 3.0v 14500 battery. (Not the 3.6v)
2 x AA 1.2v NIMH's in series makes it MUCH brighter but turned blue within 10 seconds.....

Make sure to get the GITD tailcap and replace the original one. (DX)
It makes it so much better. Much easier to press and looks/feels better.
 
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