NanoLube by StClaire: User applications/feedback!

[luxlover]

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Everybody should be aware that the thread I am initiating here refers to the product called Nano-Oil by StClaire, found at http://www.nano-oil.com/products.html
Hello current Nano-Oil by StClaire (Nano-Oil) users. I am so happy with this lubricant that I have started a thread to do two things. One is to ask those of you who have used it, to share your opinions of it. Two is to ask you to describe the applications on which you are using it. The image below is the micro-oiler pen used to apply the lubricant.

For a complete line of NanoLubes at a discounted price to CPF Members only, go here..... http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?p=2109663#post2109663

I will start off by giving you MY opinion....
After having applied Nano-Oil on all of my lights on top of the NyoGel 779ZC I have been using for years, I found that removing any existing lubricant and impurities from the o-rings and threads is the better approach to generating smoother flowing threads.

A little background.....
It was time for me to do a routine maintenance on some of my most used EDC lights. Not knowing that my Nano-Oil shipment would arrive the next day, I cleaned my lights and re-applied 779 to all of them. The next day my shipment arrived, and I applied the Nano-Oil on the same locations as the 779, per Christian StClaire's recommendation. I worked in the mating parts very well. After a week of use, I noticed that the o-rings started dragging against their bearing surfaces. This was due to the high viscosity of the 779, and not the Nano-Oil. In fact, Christian told me that this symptom appeared because the Nano-Oil did not have enough time to migrate past the 779 and imbed itself to the metal components. I guess I didn't work in the lube enough when I applied it, and the break-in period had not yet been reached.

To remedy the situation, I did what I should have done in the first place, namely clean up my lights and make sure that Nano-Oil is the only lubricant in use. Doing that has allowed all my lights to thread more smoothly than when they were new. I am convinced that every new light I have received has had a "temporary" lubricant applied to it by the manufacturer, with the understanding that we the end users will want to apply the lubricant of our choice more liberally at a later date. I am very happy with the way my lights perform with Nano-Oil as the sole lubricant.

Jeff

 

[TITAN1833]

I have been using Nanolube since I came across this six weeks ago.For me I started looking for a lubricant that I could use on just about anything not just flashlights, but on knives,hinges and locks also.Well Nanolube by StClaire fitted that bill 100%.And I have been using it ever since.I would recommend it to anyone as I have done here.It may be the only lube you need for flashlights and knives, as I have found, I will use no other.:twothumbs

 

[yaesumofo]

I have now been using it for a few weeks now. Whle hardly long enough to be able to tell it's long term usefulness my short term results are ver promising.
I have "installed" it after cleaning thoroghly all lube off of the threads and other lubed parts.
It is important to clean thoroghly first!!
I have found that titanium threads "work" more smoothly.
As do plated (anodized) threads. I have "installed" it on several multitools they all seem to have smoother actions.
I have an automatic knife whose action is MUCH better after Nonolubing it.
There is no doubt this is good stuff.
I have also installed the lube throughout all moving surfaces on m PD's the seem to like the stuff.
A little time is now necessary to determine how well it does in the long term.
Yaesumofo

 

[LuxLuthor]

Yaesumofo, do you use any solvent to clean the threads, or just a cloth? I'm not sure what is safe besides clean cloth to clean rubber O-Ring. I have also used this now on many tools. Pliers, wrenches (pipe and socket). Basically I have run out of things that need oiling....and like you said, now I will see when it seems these various items need more oil.

 

[Casual Flashlight User]

Yaesumofo, do you use any solvent to clean the threads, or just a cloth? I'm not sure what is safe besides clean cloth to clean rubber O-Ring. I have also used this now on many tools. Pliers, wrenches (pipe and socket). Basically I have run out of things that need oiling....and like you said, now I will see when it seems these various items need more oil.

Lux, I cleaned all my threads with a cloth, and then used another cloth with Isopropyl to break down any left over silicone gel/grease, I am getting good results using this method - squeky clean threads.

As for the Nanolube itself...fantastic product, I have not actually bothered using silicone since buying this, it seems pointless...the action of the threads on each and every light I own has improved greatly since applying this stuff. I have also started using it on the o-rings as well.

Up to now, I only own the micro oiler pen with 8cc of Nanolube that I bought to try, but I will definately be getting a refill for it...I can't go back to silicone grease after using a great product like this.

Bottom line, ditch the silicone, go with the Nanolube, you will not regret it. This is one of the best flashlight care products you can own IMO. :thumbsup:


CFU

 

[TranquillityBase]

I'm not feeling the difference between, Nanolube's (I have both versions), Nye 759, DuPont Krytox (I have the actual grease from DuPont)...I don't get it..:thinking:

I invite CPF members, to come over to my place and give all of them a try, I honestly can't feel the difference, and I can deliberatly cut tight threads in Titanium, to use as test pieces.

 

[TITAN1833]

I'm not feeling the difference between, Nanolube's (I have both versions), Nye 759, DuPont Krytox (I have the actual grease from DuPont)...I don't get it..:thinking:

I invite CPF members, to come over to my place and give all of them a try, I honestly can't feel the difference, and I can deliberatly cut tight threads in Titanium, to use as test pieces.

TB, So thats official then,all lubes are the same.May as well use butter then. all the ones you have listed are not cheap lubes...I don't get it now,are the very cheap ones any different to you.Could we all have been misled in some way.No I don't think so,gease, any kind of grease is messy and not an all round lube IMO,which is why I choose Nanolube.I have not used Dupont or Krytox and do not intend to,for me the lube I use fits the bill.BTW there was never any challenge set, if Nanolube was better, I dare say its not,but its another lube for people to choose from.

 

[TranquillityBase]

TB, So thats official then,all lubes are the same.May as well use butter then. all the ones you have listed are not cheap lubes...I don't get it now,are the very cheap ones any different to you.Could we all have been misled in some way.No I don't think so,gease, any kind of grease is messy and not an all round lube IMO,which is why I choose Nanolube.I have not used Dupont or Krytox and do not intend to,for me the lube I use fits the bill.BTW there was never any challenge set, if Nanolube was better, I dare say its not,but its another lube for people to choose from.

Don't get your bond wires in a bundle...

I purchased the Nanolube, because of the positive feedback on the other CPF thread...After using it, I just don't feel this stuff makes the threads on my flashlights feel much different than the other stuff I have, and use. <----User application/feedback.

WD40, DuPont Krytox, Nye 759G, and both Nanolube's.

I followed all the user suggestions, i.e. cleaning all the old lube off etc., ect...and in the end, it's just seems to be another oil, and that's it.

You're correct, the Krytox, Nano, and the Nye products are quite expensive, and yes, I do feel the inexpensive products such as WD40, work as good as the rest in this application.

 

[TITAN1833]

Don't get your bond wires in a bundle...

I purchased the Nanolube, because of the positive feedback on the other CPF thread...After using it, I just don't feel this stuff makes the threads on my flashlights feel much different than the other stuff I have, and use. <----User application/feedback.

WD40, DuPont Krytox, Nye 759G, and both Nanolube's.

I followed all the user suggestions, i.e. cleaning all the old lube off etc., ect...and in the end, it's just seems to be another oil, and that's it.

You're correct, the Krytox, Nano, and the Nye products are quite expensive, and yes, I do feel the inexpensive products such as WD40, work as good as the rest in this application.

Apart from this,Don't get your bond wires in a bundle..or twist even. I accept your opinions and feedback comments.

 

[LuxLuthor]

That's not been my experience. I have two Nyogels, and have been using them in the 50+ lights I have. There are a number that had a "thread grating" feeling/sound which improved with Nyogels, but was still there, and almost every thread has significant amounts of black/gray mixed in with the gel...so you get it all over everything when you unscrew lights.

I honestly didn't think there would be much difference, but I have at least 10 lights with the noticeable thread scraping still there....so I tried 4 drops of Nanolube around the sides....worked head/tail on & off twice, and in EVERY SINGLE CASE of the metal scraping/sound feeling that had already been Nyolubed.....the addition of Nanolube totally eliminated that issue.

When added to others that worked pretty nicely with Nyogel, the Nanolube added a velvety/butter smooth quality to the threads, but better results if I cleaned out the gray/black lube first.

My understanding of these products (who knows for sure what the hell is going on)...is there are itty bitty "nano" round sphere particles made of something uber-hard that act like oiled ball bearings on rubbing surfaces. Anyway, maybe you should test a larger flashlight sample size, or maybe you don't notice the thread scraping as much as most of us.

 

[yaesumofo]

Re: NanoLube by Stclair: User applications/feedback!

I have lots of different lubes ...a few ears ago this issue came up and I searched around and order commercial samples of every major lube that we were using at the time. Each and every time I receive the equivalent of a lifetime supply completely free.
I did More searching and found this stuff called MAGNALUBE.
Once I found that stuff I stopped using EVERYTHING ELSE on ALL OF MY FLASHLIGHTS and multi tools and anything made from metal with friction points. I was very happy with the magnalube's protection of O-Rings as well as threads.

All that being said When I found Nanolube I actually just bought a dispenser pen with the 6cc in it. When I received it I noticed that there was a lot of lube on the package. Upon further inspection It looked like My pen leaked a little. I asked the nanolube gentleman about this and he quickly sent me a second bottle of the stuff.
Ok Good service...Do I need that from a product that with luck I will only buy once in a blue moon?
Hell I don't know but it was there to e sure.
OK Now I have been working at switching over from magnalube to nanolube.
The way I do it is when it is time for a light to be serviced, I disassemble it completely clean all threads surfaces and every square inch of the light possible.
the I use TINY and I mean TINY. Like if you guys who have it think you are using small amounts try 1/2 of that. That tiny.
I put the tiniest bit on the threads and I work the threads. On a PD I put a TINY bit on the PD and the o-rings and the threads. Anyway I have gone through and have installed the nanolube on swisstools, leatherman, Swana flashlights. Automatic knives..
In every case I find the nanolube does it's job right away the automatic knife opens better than it did when new it is very fast. The Charge ti has a smoother action. The Titanium Pd's who are known for needing a good deal of break in for smooth function have become immediately smoother. I am not seeing oxides of aluminum (the black stuff) when I wipe these lights down (on aluminum lights)

Here is the thing. I know for sure that my sample size is too small even though I have used the stuff on a lot of individual units it still is not enough to make a proper determination of it's utility.
I never had that with MAGNALUBA either.
I do not know how the stuff works. I do know that it seems to do a good job. We could call if magic snake oil for all I care...It seems to work.
I must admit I have plent of MAGNALUBE standing by incase nanolube fails. It is all about having a backup.
To be honest I could never figure out wh Magnalube did not become a hit out here. IMHO untill I found the Nanolube The Magnalube Blew EVERYTHING I had OUT OF THE WATER. Magnalube has a lot of great features...just like the nanolube does. Magnelube is thicker and green ..maybe that was it. Anyway I feel like we have a New High tec
Lubrication to work with. How cool is that? Very cool. The jury is still out IMHO about how O-rings respond to it.
It is made for metal parts not exotic rubber and synthetic O-rings.
I guess time will tell. Anything which protects O-rings and keeps them from deteriorating over the long haul is a good thing.
I don't know about you guys but I try to change out o-rings every 6 months to a year. I have found that O-rings can become fouled up quicker on lights which don't see action often thus these need to be changed more often.
The Pd's o-rings get replaced when needed. The lights I use the most seem to need new O-rings less than others. Go ahead and call me crazy it's ok.
IMHO it is very important to determine how well or badly the nanolube does with o-rings.
Yaesumofo

 

[DM51]

I have been using Nanolube for 2 weeks now, and so far, so good. In fact, better than that - the lights and knives I have used it on all work better and more smoothly than they did before.

Some comments:

1. Like yaesumofo, when my oiler pen arrived, some lube had leaked from it into the package. Having cleaned it off, it hasn't leaked again, so this may have been due to air-freight pressure differences, or simply because when you apply it, this stuff gets just EVERYWHERE and it must be hard to seal it into a pen like this.

2. The plastic refill bottle with its needle applicator is also a perfectly good way of applying Nanolube, and this does NOT leak in transit.

3. I am going to try it for a while on a few lights before changing over to using it on all of them (partly because I am too lazy to sit down and do them all, lol, too much hard work all at once!)

4. I will most definitely NOT be using Nanolube on any of my dive-lights. I will continue to use silicone grease on these, and I would strongly advise other divers to do the same. This is because the most important function of the silicone grease is to ensure the O-rings maintain a proper seal, as well as to act as a lubricant. The viscosity of the grease is a factor in ensuring a good seal, and I doubt Nanolube could do this job, as its viscosity appears to be almost zero! I do not yet know the chemical effect of Nanolube on O-rings, but from what I have seen and read it is almost certainly inert and will not damage them. It is just that I do not think it is thick enough to provide the 100% seal that is essential for dive-lights.

5. This point is completely unrelated to Nanolube, but it has arisen in this thread and I think it is important: Some people here have been referring to WD40. It is well-known that this is an extremely useful product as a water-repelling lubricant. It is also strongly anti-oxidant, which helps to stop rust, but this has a downside: It should not be used routinely on guns, because its anti-oxidising properties will eventually destroy the color-hardening on a gun, which is sometimes referred to as "blacking" or "blueing" and is a protective oxidation. The destruction of the color-hardening by WD40 is a slow process, but I have seen a very noticeable effect where WD40 has been used each time for cleaning a gun over a period of several months. More particularly where CPF is concerned, I do not know if there might be any long-term effect of using WD40 on anodised aluminium (or even titanium), but until someone with expert metallurgical knowledge can pronounce on this, I do not think it would be a good idea to use WD40 on anodised flashlights.

 

[LuxLuthor]

Yaesumofo, I had fun reading how fastidious you are with cleaning and replacing O-Rings. I can admire those traits, but I'm more of the replace O-Ring when it breaks camp. To date, the only O-rings that have broken, and regularly show wear are the ones on the SF-L2.

Talking about black/gray oxidations, metal discoloration of the lube....the SF light is the worst. However, once I took it apart and cleaned the threads and O-ring, it has remained clean since Nanolubed. That alone is welcome relief.

Good points on Silicone for diving seals.

 

[nanolube]

TB,

This afternoon my lawyer said I can publicly post the court documents, so I will post the first page tomorrow at my oldest web page http://members.aol.com/hypercom59 that has been active since 1999.

ASTM testing is "required" to determine the differences between products under precisely controlled conditions, and as the inventor of Non Detonation NanoDiamond I have performed these tests to explain how our lubrication produces superior results. ASTM testing proved our product (The Original NanoLube) protected better than StClaires infringing, unlicensed product which is in breach of our specific use license. Testing by the University of Illinois Chicago is how we finally proved, (beyond any doubt) that this infringement was being perpetrated. We know it is our product because the spectral signature is not generated with any other synthetic diamond, yet it is found in only two lubricants on Earth - both called NanoLube, and - I sold the original licensed product to StClaire's partner in November 2006?

When our injunction is granted, StClaire will no longer be allowed to infringe.

Regards,
Chris Arnold
NanoLube, Inc.

I'm not feeling the difference between, Nanolube's (I have both versions), Nye 759, DuPont Krytox (I have the actual grease from DuPont)...I don't get it..:thinking:

I invite CPF members, to come over to my place and give all of them a try, I honestly can't feel the difference, and I can deliberatly cut tight threads in Titanium, to use as test pieces.

 

[DM51]

When our injunction is granted…

Well, I just hope CPF isn't going to get caught up in the middle of some legal quagmire here. The last thing we need is another Novatac vs. HDS situation, or worse.

 

[REparsed]

The StClaire stuff seems to have been around longer and has the .com domain that was first registered in 2002 and lists Christian StClaire as the contact.

The Arnold stuff has a .net domain that was first registered in 2006 and lists "Domains by Proxy" as the contact.

I'm confused :thinking:

 

[Thujone]

I dont think this is an appropriate thread to discuss the legal matter in. It is clearly marked as 'Nanolube by StClaire' as to not have any confusion between it and the offering by nanolube.com. I have ordered both btw, I just htink that there is a more tactful place to have this discussion than a feedback thread.

 

[nanolube]

StClaire secured the website from www.h2oil.com after I applied for the trademark. Would anybody believe how many people believed Clinton when he said "I did not have sex with that woman...?" The majority would rather ignore the truth. Also, "the Arnold stuff" is patent pending.

OK, I have provided this group with notice of IP infringements by StClaire and will say nothing further on the matter, except I am required to send legal notice to the group moderator to remove infringing materials, and then turn it over to my attorney.



Warm Regards,
Chris Arnold (President)
NanoLube, Inc.
www.nanolube.net

The StClaire stuff seems to have been around longer and has the .com domain that was first registered in 2002 and lists Christian StClaire as the contact.

The Arnold stuff has a .net domain that was first registered in 2006 and lists "Domains by Proxy" as the contact.

I'm confused :thinking:

 

[DM51]

OK, I ... will say nothing further on the matter

Good.

 

[TITAN1833]

+1.:thumbsup: