Need suggestions for a flood setup

[LightChucker]

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I have the Mr. Bulk VIP and LH, but as you know they are better suited to throw than flood.

I would appreciate your thoughts and experiences for the following: /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif

small size;
single-cell;
flood;
clicky switch;
white light;
run time of about an hour on high beam;
low beam similar to an ARC AAA.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Chuck

 

[Darell]

Pretty simple, really. Considering this forum: An Aleph2 head with a Surefire beamshaper and a Z57 clickie. If you only want an hour of runtime, we'll have to build it pretty hot though! Sure you wouldn't mind a couple of hours? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Oops, wait. You want a clickie AND a low beam? Not sure how we're going to accomplish that.

 

[Chop]

If you want something with a bit of a hotspot, you could also consider a 5W with a BB400. It should get you close to the runtime, but a clickie AND two levels of light is tough.

If you want white, TWO?, TXO?, TX1?, TWA? bins should get you there.

 

[Kiessling]

I see two main possibilities here:

1. Chop's Exe-Mod

An SF Exe head fitted with an Aleph LE on a VG1 body. This one runs a NG400 on 1x123 with a so17xa reflector for the perfect medium-flood beam with a LuxIII, and it does so for roughly 2 hours. Has a clicky but no 2-stage.


2. Aleph2 NG500

(the smaller one)

Perfect beam on a LuxIII for more than one hour on high and plenty on low, but no clicky. The light in the pic can be bought with the "trim" version of the tailcap which is significantly smaller in diameter if you are so inclined.


I have both , and I am very happy with both.

bernhard

 

[Roy]

If you have a VIP...just take the optics out of the head and you get a VERY smooth flood!

 

[LightChucker]

OK, it looks like I "don't want" the high/low beam after all, since having the clicky and the high/low is not available.

Kiessling:
You have a nice collection and great pictures. I like that Exe VG1. I assume that the parts come from different lights? I guess the Exe is a Sure Fire, but what is the VG1?

Roy:
Removing the optics would do the flood OK, but I guess I am looking for an excuse to get an Aleph.

More questions for everyone:
Is the beam of the Aleph2 more spread out than the other 2 heads or the VIP and LH?

If I ordered the Aleph2, what LED and regulator should I order? I want a bright, white light with a run time of at least an hour (longer is OK, just want at least an hour).

Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts and ideas!

Chuck

 

[Kiessling]

Chuck,

the beam of the Aleph2 has in fact a narrower corona and bigger hotspot than the others (27mm reflectors of the LH and Aleph1 as well as the so17xa) making it into a very effective medium and close range tool since the corona is brighter and at the same time and the hotspot won't blind you. That means that your effective range of vision extends further and covers more ground with that corona than with a 27mm reflector. The Aleph2 is the true winner in the Aleph Series if you ask me.

The Exe head is a SF E-Series head modded by Chop to accept the Aleph-LE and a so17xa, and the VG! is a Vital Gear 1 - cell body. Those are rather new and one or two members are offering them for purchase. The advantage is size, they are the smallest bodies with a clicky for this set-up, but we do not have long-term results on the switch yet. So far it holds up fine.
You can read more about this combo here

If you ordered the Aleph2 ... you'd get moer than one hour with a NG500, and this would be bright and white ... and cool running. With a NG400 it would still be bright and would run just over 2 hours on high!

Here are two pics (different exposures) of an Aleph1 vs the Aleph2 (on the right):

bernhard

 

[stringj]

If you rule out the low beam, then a McLux TK would do. The one I have is nothing but flood. It has all of the other attributes you are looking for.
Jerry

 

[LightChucker]

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stringj said:
If you rule out the low beam, then a McLux TK would do. The one I have is nothing but flood. It has all of the other attributes you are looking for.
Jerry

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Jerry, you are right about that. In fact, I own 2 of them. Each one is occupying a different table in the house, but I still have some tables that do not have a flashlight yet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Chuck

 

[Kiessling]

Jerry ... Chuck is desperately looking for a reason to buy a new light /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ... let's be good flashaholics and helop the man out /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ...
bernie

 

[LightChucker]

[ QUOTE ]
Kiessling said:
Jerry ... Chuck is desperately looking for a reason to buy a new light /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ... let's be good flashaholics and helop the man out /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ...
bernie

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How very perceptive of you, Bernie! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif

Chuck

 

[mut]

Chuck I think you should go with a 5W running on a BB/500 in the Aleph2 head on a 1x123 body. If that doesn't give you enough of a flood beam you could always put one of SureFires beamshapers on it as well.
Then you will have to get an Aleph1 head for medium throw and an Aleph3 head for pinpoint light up the neighbors house down a block throw.
Hope this helps with a good reason to get a new Aleph or two. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Oh ya you can use the same LE in all heads or buy one for each head.

mut

 

[mut]

Oops forgot if you want even smaller than the Aleph 1x123 body with a clicky you could get one of VitalGears new FB1 bodies.

mut

 

[LightChucker]

mut,

Thanks for your ideas. I will lookup the VitalGear stuff.

Chuck

 

[cue003]

I am thinking along the same lines as Chuck. I think I may do a Aleph 2 5w (when I can get my hands on an X-bin) with a NG500. I too would rather have a clickie type setup.

Chuck, let me know what you think about the VitalGear stuff.

Thanks.

Curtis

 

[mut]

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cue003 said:
I am thinking along the same lines as Chuck. I think I may do a Aleph 2 5w (when I can get my hands on an X-bin) with a NG500. I too would rather have a clickie type setup.

Chuck, let me know what you think about the VitalGear stuff.

Thanks.

Curtis

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the NG are not compatible with the 5W. You will have to go with a regular BB or DB.

mut

 

[tylerdurden]

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mut said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the NG are not compatible with the 5W. You will have to go with a regular BB or DB.

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That is correct. If you need a boost circuit for a Lux V, you need the badboy. Wiz2 also is not recommended for Lux V use.

 

[Haesslich]

For a single-cell with flood? I'd suggest upping that to a 1.5x123 tube so you could stuff a Pila into it, and maybe doing the LuxV... but that'll be a tight fit with an Aleph 2 head. Not sure as to what sort of BB you'd need for that, but you'd need to find something with a relatively low Vf-in.

 

[Kiessling]

If using the Aleph2 head there is no need for the LuxV ... it has a beautiful medium-flood with bright corona with a LuxIII in a much more reasonable package.
And this advice comes from one of the die-hard LuxV-fans!
bernhard

 

[LightChucker]

[ QUOTE ]
cue003 said:
I am thinking along the same lines as Chuck. I think I may do a Aleph 2 5w (when I can get my hands on an X-bin) with a NG500. I too would rather have a clickie type setup.

Chuck, let me know what you think about the VitalGear stuff.

Thanks.

Curtis

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Curtis,

I found the VITAL-GEAR KL1 FLASHLIGHT BODY 123 page. It really looks good! Unfortunately, it says they are "sold out". There is nothing that says they will be getting any more, but it sure looks like it would make a nice little light.

Chuck