NextGen 750 Vs NextGen 1000

[Miciobigio]

This is just a quick post to help users that have to choose the right LE.

I have 2 Aleph1 , one with a NextGen750 and one with a NextGen 1000, so i made a quick test using a lightmeter at 1 meter circa, here are the results :

<font color="purple"> Aleph1 NG750 using 1x123 = 3100 Lux circa
Aleph1 NG1000 using 1x123 =3100 Lux circa

Aleph1 NG750 using a Pila Li-ion = 3300 Lux circa
Aleph1 NG1000 using a Pila Li-ion = 4100 Lux circa !!!!
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From this "quick and dirty" test , my advice is : if you are going to use the NextGen only with the 1x123 battery tube , order the NG750 but if you think that you can use a Li-ion rech. using the 1.5x123 battery tube (and a Pila 150S) or using the 2x123 battery tube (and a Pila 168S or a bare Li-ion 17670 or 17650 ) go with the NG1000 !!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bernhard ...... i know that you think that the 1,5x123 battery tube was made for using 2xCR2 batts..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif


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[Hallis]

I suppose the NG1000 would work equally on one 4.2V Rechargable 123 as well?

Shane

 

[Miciobigio]

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Hallis said:
I suppose the NG1000 would work equally on one 4.2V Rechargable 123 as well?

Shane

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The only difference between the 4,2 V Pila and the rech.123 4,2 V will be the runtime .... i think /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

 

[B@rt]

I'm running a NG 1000 on the R123 right now. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif the brightness of my low level has jumped up quite a bit, the brightness of the high level is a bit ( just a bit /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) less noticable... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I don't do runtimes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Bottom line for me: when using normal 123's don't bother with getting the NG 1000. If you plan to use Li-Ion cells, go for it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Hallis]

*nods* thats what im assuming as well. What are the Pila rated at mAH wise? Roughly 1800mAH for the 168A i believe. The R123's are around 600-700maH.
So you'll get twice to three times the runtime off of the pila roughly, depending on which ones you use. The 150A's are 1200mAH so only twoce a R123. The pilas are only speced out at 3.7v and the R123's are 4.2v. The Pila solution would seem to be the route to go if you already have the cells and the charger. And use that NG1000. I need to get an aleph1 head and a few LE's or possably an aleph3 because im into throw /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Only downside though is i heard the NG's arent meant for a LuxV? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Shane

 

[B@rt]

Nope, the NexGen's are for 1 or 3 Watt luxes only. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Don posted about that somewhere, but I'm too lazy to search... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Hallis]

Well at least we still have the origonal BB's available /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I hope those remain in production for some time. else i'll have to buy a whole bunch of them and keep them aside for rainy days.

Shane

 

[Miciobigio]

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Hallis said:
*nods* thats what im assuming as well. What are the Pila rated at mAH wise? Roughly 1800mAH for the 168A i believe. The R123's are around 600-700maH.
So you'll get twice to three times the runtime off of the pila roughly, depending on which ones you use. The 150A's are 1200mAH so only twoce a R123. The pilas are only speced out at 3.7v and the R123's are 4.2v. The Pila solution would seem to be the route to go if you already have the cells and the charger. And use that NG1000. I need to get an aleph1 head and a few LE's or possably an aleph3 because im into throw /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Only downside though is i heard the NG's arent meant for a LuxV? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Shane

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Hallis,

the Pila 150S is 1000mAh
the Pila 168S is 1400mAh
the Pila when fully charged are 4,2V just as the R123.

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[Hallis]

Ahh neat.

 

[Haesslich]

I linked to this in the other thread. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif NextGen's and Wiz2's do not work with the LuxV - you have to go with the 'normal' BB or DB sandwiches for those. But, on the upside, you'll get a nice response from rechargeables it seems. That'd be PERFECT for my Aleph2.

 

[Hallis]

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Haesslich said:
I linked to this in the other thread. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif NextGen's and Wiz2's do not work with the LuxV - you have to go with the 'normal' BB or DB sandwiches for those. But, on the upside, you'll get a nice response from rechargeables it seems. That'd be PERFECT for my Aleph2.


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Id rather stick it in an aleph3 and have a throw-monster /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Shane

 

[Haesslich]

The NextGen1000'd be perfect for a 1x123/Aleph 2 combo where I need to use it as an EDC for close-to-medium range applications. That's where most of my flashlight-shining occurs anyways.

The Aleph 3 I've got would be good for two purposes - a LuxV for close-range work, on either a 1x123 or 2x123 tube and the appropriate BB sandwich to compensate for it. Option #2 is to make a REAL throwmonster and throw it on a NG1000 with a 1x123/1x17500/2x123 tube so I can do the rechargeable route or 2x123 route for more runtime.

Or I could, I suppose, follow the CPF motto and get a second so I could do both. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Hallis]

Yah, to bad you cant use a NG with a LuxV, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif So, you could get yoursef an origonal BB750 or BB1000 and have a nicely impressive light.

Shane

 

[McGizmo]

My 2 cents: Get the NG1000 if you plan on using a Li-Ion AND you want the full 1000 mA drive when you do use the Li-Ion. Bear in mind that 1000 mA is the limit suggested by Lumileds and depending on your host and length of on times, you might be running this sucker hotter than is healthy!!!

 

[toyopet]

For those of you who are using a rechargeable 123 in the Aleph 1x123, does it drop in without any modifications? I've read that the r123 is a bit shorter than the surefire 123.

Thanks,
Jason

 

[Kiessling]

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Bernhard ...... i know that you think that the 1,5x123 battery tube was made for using 2xCR2 batts.....

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif very true Marco, very true ...

bernie

 

[McGizmo]

toyopet,
The contact spring can handle the shorter length R123 with no porblem.