bigburly912
Flashlight Enthusiast
If this is your last and only resort look up "palm stick self defense" and take it very lightly.
I still preach situational awareness over anything.
I still preach situational awareness over anything.
I agree with you 100% about the situational awareness, better to avoid such situation if possible in the first place. I also advise people to use "tactical communication" as a means to get out of a sticky situation if possible before any resort to violence. As it goes I do carry a sturdy cane which I'm very aware could be used as a weapon, but that's more for disability purposes just as a flashlight would in reality almost always be used as a light for every day use.If this is your last and only resort look up "palm stick self defense" and take it very lightly.
I still preach situational awareness over anything.
Thank you bykfixer, I appreciate that.Welcome still here. Glad the olight is at least close to what you seek.
Thanks for keeping it civil.
I personally shy away from olight products due to reading numerous complaints about reliability. But... from what I understand, issues show up early. As in QC at their factory is hit and so sometimes a bad one gets out.
Hi again, just thought to ask my friend because I remembered he did say something about an issue with an Olight, so I just message him and this is the Discord chat we just had, I've removed names other than mine...Welcome still here. Glad the olight is at least close to what you seek.
Thanks for keeping it civil.
I personally shy away from olight products due to reading numerous complaints about reliability. But... from what I understand, issues show up early. As in QC at their factory is hit and so sometimes a bad one gets out.
Happy to be obliging, but your comment is very strange to me. I'll be very interested to know where you're coming from and what sort of person you are.No offense James, but this forum is about flashlights not fighting. Please refrain from any more violent content.
I respect you but there are people that like having power over others by setting themselves up as some sort of authority figure or policeman. I had a look and I couldn't see any rules regarding the discussion of pointing flashlights in people's eyes. I wonder if you be kind enough to point me where that rule is. Thank you.Here at CPF we don't discuss blinding people with a flashlight. Has nothing to do with laws or what kind of person I am.
It has everything to do with rules of a forum. It's real simple, not complicated at all.
I respect you but there are people that like having power over others by setting themselves up as some sort of authority figure or policeman. I had a look and I couldn't see any rules regarding the discussion of pointing flashlights in people's eyes. I wonder if you be kind enough to point me where that rule is. Thank you.
Rules don't exist here anymore do they?Here at CPF we don't discuss blinding people with a flashlight. Has nothing to do with laws or what kind of person I am.
It has everything to do with rules of a forum. It's real simple, not complicated at all.
I respect you but there are people that like having power over others by setting themselves up as some sort of authority figure or policeman. I had a look and I couldn't see any rules regarding the discussion of pointing flashlights in people's eyes. I wonder if you be kind enough to point me where that rule is. Thank you.
With authority comes responsibility, if you are wielding the power of justice and the law. You have to be accurate. As I have mentioned shining a light on someone's eyes is not considered an assault or an offence even if you do in offensive manner. My question was purely related to self defence effectiveness of shining a light in the eyes of an unprovoked attack. That is not illegal. In fact you are threatening my safety by not allowing me to discuss something which might give me some small measure of safety against an unprovoked attack.View attachment 51208
I've tried to be devil's advecate in this one but some people can't be reached.
That's my last words on the matter.
Thank you, I appreciate your advice very much. The one you suggest of that very nice. I totally agree with you regarding discussing the use of the torch as a weapon is not a good idea and act against the rules of thiss forum as has been pointed out. That's why was limiting my discussion to the light blinding effectiveness. Thanks again. All the bestHi James9000. I recently joined the CPF to ask more or less the same question. I see this isn't a popular topic so out of respect for others I won't engage here in any sort of public discussion regarding the pros/cons or actual use of a torch for self defence, but I thought to mention the hardware info I found and maybe help resolve this topic for you.
So as you may have seen from a few of my previous comments I bought the Olight "Warrior 3s" which is pretty close to perfect for what I wanted. Olight has big discounts regularly as they seem to be very much a marketing company foremost that happens to sell torches. Still, the quality of the one I have and a friend who has one seem pretty good so far. You can look up the specs, but I think it has what it takes for the purpose. Whether it's too bulky as an EDC or not for you is another question.
Ok, the Warrior 3s is what I bought because I got tired of searching and it was available in the UK. Having said that, some other info you may like is doing a search on YouTube for something like "tactical defence flashlight torch". I found one guy who's channel is called "FlashLight Crazy" and he has a whole video on this topic. He advocates a specific torch in the end but I never fully trust anyone that has an affiliate link to what they recommend. Still, he makes some good points on the topic. Look at what service you will get in the UK before ordering any torch, especially from China. There are some other videos also which are good. I also recommend reading the comments on these videos for more insight.
I generally find the general subject of flashlight/torch technology fascinating regardless of my desire for a specific torch, as such I would rather stay on the good side of people's sentiments on the CPF. No use trying to argue something that has very little chance of producing a result even if you feel you are correct. I do hope my suggestions further above help your search for what you're looking for.
Cheers,
Rob
I've been done wrong here because I've never talked about using a flashlight as a weapon which could lead to the legal trouble you suggest I have talked about the effectiveness of blinding someone who is trying to attack me. As I've mentioned several times there is no offence in shining a torch in someone's eyes. The light coming out with torch is not considered to be a weapon, it does not exist in law. By someone WRONLY giving me a heavy-handed warning against discussing violence. Other people including yourself have assumed that is what I have done, which I have not. Maybe that's problem with the world, there's no honour and integrity. Things are more like a politically correct nightmare. This is the statistics of knife crime in London. And you would like to make the topic of a completely legal method of impairing someone's ability to attack you a taboo subject. Look at these figures.Can we just lock this thread and be done with it. I think all the reasonable relevant information possible as already been posted. Simply discussing any tool used for self defence could constitute per-mediation which could land the OP in further legal trouble. Seriously If you dead set on using a flashlight to protect yourself your better off consulting with a lawyer than CPF.