P61 dissapointment?

[cyberspyder]

I know the lumens scale don't work linearly, so the P61 isn't twice as bright as the P60, but the output really sucks. The hotspot is about twice the diameter of the P60, thus reducing throw by alot, along the frosted tip. Are all P61s like this? Surefire wasn't very helpful in their email...

BRendan

 

[pbs357]

I had one P61 in the past, and I agree that the difference isn't dramatic. What I noticed most was the brighter spill and wider hotspot P61 creates. When was doing incan in my 6p, I just kept the P60 in there.

 

[cyberspyder]

Anyone else on the frosted tip issue?

 

[Rossymeister]

I had one P61 in the past, and I agree that the difference isn't dramatic. What I noticed most was the brighter spill and wider hotspot P61 creates. When was doing incan in my 6p, I just kept the P60 in there.

+1

I have noticed the same thing with the P61.

I have also noticed that it throws a little bit further than the P60.

The reduction in runtime isnt really worth it in the end though

 

[Size15's]

I find that the difference in light output can be better experienced outdoors.
Note that the design intention of the High Output Lamp Assemblies is not to increase beam throw but to get a larger central main beam and a brighter surround beam.
I realise that the difference is quickly reduced, especially after a few minutes, and it's not always obvious unless you use American-made CR123A batteries.

The High Output Lamp Assemblies are not intended for the majority of users. If you're not seeing the benefit then I suggest you stop using it.

 

[FlashlightKid]

Anyone else on the frosted tip issue?

The P61 I got also has a frosted tip, the funny thing is the very tips not perfectly straight, but it still works great.

 

[kelmo]

Only the runtime!

 

[chuck4570]

I use the P60 strictly in my 2 cell lights, if I need more I go with a C3 with a P91 LA, now thats alot more light, and the totle package isn't that much bigger.

Chuck

 

[angelofwar]

I still pack a P61 for self-defense and I have one to swap out in my G2/KR1...the rechargeable doesn't make it as painful to use, plus with my lightsaver tailcap, and can drop the lumens and extend the runtime!

 

[mdocod]

In my experience, if you are looking for more throwing power in this size light, you'll want to check out an LED drop-in. They are handily competing with the total output of HOLA lamps in this category, but at the same time, can provide much more focus if this is what you desire. There is always something to be said for the depth of field generated by the wider color spectrum of incans, but I personally have found that the tradeoff in this size is worth it, especially when you factor in runtime... I've had the pleasure of receiving a "290 lumen" R2 drop-in from ttran97 as a gift from another CPF member recently. It handily outperforms a brinkman maxfire (similar to 6P P60) and i have no doubt it will out-throw a P61.

As an alternative, the Wold-Eyes D26 3.7V drop-in on a protected AW 17670 might be worth checking out if you want a little more punch than the P60, while maintaining an incan platform, but don't want the guilt of burning through CR123s every 20 minutes.

Eric

 

[dudemar]

I had no problems with my P61, in fact when I first used it I was blown away. The bulb has been long burnt out so I can't make any real-time comparisons anymore; but I would think I'd still be very happy with it. Very nice HOLA.:thumbsup: