People in Swiss broke the world's smallest gun record?

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but given the search results on it were inconclusive I decide to run a thread for it anyway...
Mods not sure if this would be the best place to discuss it, feel free to delete it if necessary :thanks:



Galleries I [Steel] and II [Gold] from product home page
EDITED, :thanks: B@rt
According to the product homepage,
It's total length does not exceed 5.5 cm.
It shoots 2.34 mm calibre rim fire ammunition which we have developed for it and which is the smallest rim fire ammunition in the World.
I hope in the future we wouldnt have Guns on our keychains...but this hints the demolition of that idea:ohgeez:


 
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Phredd said:
Very cool. Did you notice that they're about $5,000?

Phredd

well what did you expect? to "micro" a functioning handgun isn't something that can be easily done....and to THAT extent is simply ridiclous:laughing:


where did you read $5000? :thinking:
according to the price page it is at most 500 Swiss Francs
by xe.com current currency conversion rate thats about $415...
 
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I wonder if it'd be more or less powerful than a pellet or BB gun? Spitball? If you shot somebody with it, would it hurt? Could it be used as a self defense weapon?
 
Nice craftmanship. :)

Illum, please don't post whole rows of pics when they are all on the same page on the site you linked, have compassion with those on a slower connection. :ohgeez: A single pic with a link to more or thumbnailing them is better... ;)
 
Edited, thanks B@rt

I've been staring at the PM box for the past hour or so hoping I dont get another correction PM from Unforgiven about some silly mistakes [I have a tency to make over and over:ohgeez:]
 
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Wow...2.4 mm? dude...woulod that even hurt? it would be like a mini paintball or an airsoft...airsoft is 6mm, so this is less than half the size:ohgeez:...wow...pretty cool none the less!

[EDIT] oops, didnt see trashman had already said something about this...:grin2:
 
Damage would depend on the velocity and the weight. If it won't even break skin, then it's no more dangerous than an airsoft gun. If it does break skin and actually travels in far, someone could easily be killed, especially if it bounces around inside the target like a .22 ... BEAUTIFUL craftsmanship.
 
I read about this when it came out and I thought $5,000 was the basic gun. There were more expensive models with jewels. I just looked at the link you referenced and it lists 6500 francs. For $415, I might even consider buying one. I forgot the specs for the force, but I just searched and found someone compared a .177 pellet at 8 grains and 300 fps to this ammo at 2 grains and 426 fps.

Phredd
 
United States of America

Our Miniature Revolver ref. C1ST is not importable in the United States.

We have received a letter from the US Department of Justice mentioning that our Miniature Revolver does not meet with the minimum size prerequisites referring to the Factoring Criteria For Weapons ATF Form 4590.

Our revolver therefore is classified as not sporting and is not importable.
Printable words fail me.

-RDH
 
I wonder how exactly are you supposed to hold it & press the trigger?
 
L.E.D. said:
Damage would depend on the velocity and the weight. If it won't even break skin, then it's no more dangerous than an airsoft gun. If it does break skin and actually travels in far, someone could easily be killed, especially if it bounces around inside the target like a .22 ... BEAUTIFUL craftsmanship.

Let's look at the physics of some common small cartridges...

A .25 automatic (considered woefully inadequate for self defense) fires a 50 grain bullet at 760 feet per second for 64 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. There are numerous stories of people being shot with .25 auto rounds and not even noticing, or the rounds not penetrating clothing.

A high-velocity 32-grain CCI .22LR (part number 0050) firing a 32 grain bullet at 1640 feet per second generates 191 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. While plenty of people are killed by .22LR every year (mostly because it's the most common caliber in existence and extremely cheap), it's not especially dangerous and typically creates non-fatal flesh wounds. The main danger with .22LR is its higher velocity, so if it happens to hit a vital spot or ricochet internally, it can cause serious damage.

Per the company's data, this micro-revolver fires a 1.9 grain bullet at <400 feet per second for a whopping .7154 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle, or just short of one joule. Looking at the ballistics, it looks like this cartidge has a point-blank range of less than 5 meters. Striking a target with any precisions beyond that range looks to require elevation of the weapon.

It's a firearm and should be treated with the same respect and precautions as any other, but the energy it produces is minuscule. The average airgun is far more energetic.

In the end, it's a novelty and example of craftsmanship.
 
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Whoa... That's the Swiss for you! :wink:

I wonder if combining the Metal Storm system and a tubular body would allow the use of larger calibers (but perhaps fewer rounds) in a form factor similar to 1AA, 1AAA, or 1CR123A lights?
 
I remember a year ago some kids drived-by me with a bb gun. One of the bb(plastic) hit my shirt & bounced off, I never felt it.
 
TigerhawkT3 said:
Whoa... That's the Swiss for you! :wink:

I wonder if combining the Metal Storm system and a tubular body would allow the use of larger calibers (but perhaps fewer rounds) in a form factor similar to 1AA, 1AAA, or 1CR123A lights?

Handguns have to have a visible pistol grip or they become an AOW which requires registration and taxation by the BATFE.
 
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