i was dissapointed that the 170 was marketed to a "special" consumer group.
I don't think I understand what you're referring to here. It wasn't marketed to a special consumer group, it was marketed to everyone who wanted one. Then supply fell short of demand and there was no choice but to remove them from the production lineup. After that point, they were not marketed to anyone; so far, one person has one because of a fortunate circumstance. Others may also acquire one due to similar circumstances. I'm not seeing any marketing or picking of special groups here.
. . . I would have loved it if the general public ,i.e. ME, would've had a chance at one of those lights...
As my Croat friend already said, in the situation you mention, you technically were given a chance at those lights, more of a chance than if it were just made a race, with the prize going to whoever was in the right place at the right time. You had all the time in the world to sell your worldly possessions and outbid the competition in an honest contest of supply and demand. And as it happens, the later ones sold for less than the set price of purchasing through the normal channels, so you were given the very best chance possible through that. That doesn't make it right, I'm not defending it, and I'm not saying it was entirely wrong either; I'm just pointing out that your complaint doesn't really hold up to the reality of what happened. If every one had been bid up far beyond the chosen set sale price, rather than sometimes coming in below, you'd have more of a point but it wouldn't change the fact that it was open to anyone committed enough and there was no element of luck or discrimination involved. Also, the reason it's not talked about anymore is because everyone who went through it is pretty sick of talking about it. It shouldn't necessarily be glossed over, but let's be careful about reviving it, especially in an inappropriate place to discuss it.
I mean henry has one and atleast one other person...
Henry also has a remarkably fine mustache, that doesn't mean he's obliged to teach you how to grow one of equal quality.
Henry gave us all a chance to buy a proto-type...If i weren't a CPF member that would be unfair...
The fans of Henry's lights spread far beyond the bounds of just this forum, and none of them were excluded from buying any of his lights. CPF membership was never a requirement to buy one, this isn't even the only place they were offered for sale. There was nothing unfair about it.
and he backs his products( even if they wear a different brand name)...
All of the lights backed by HDS wear the HDS brand. HDS Systems still exists, Ra is simply a dba (doing business as) marketing name they've chosen to use on the current products. Or, if you want to get literal about it, the HDS EDCs don't wear any brand name, they have only model info engraved on the side.
I was responding to terms such as "crying" and "whining" and "not very mature". These, to me, are terms used to attack another person's position by belittling it. If you want to disagree and have a discussion about it -- great. Trying to cut off discussion by impuning the opposing point, is the tactic of a poor debater.
Since a quick search shows that, aside from yaesu's signature, I'm the only one who used the word "cry," I feel I should respond to this; but, since I have trouble keeping anything brief, I'll pm you rather than waste everyone's time with it. In short, you have no need to defend yourself to me, I don't disagree with anything you've said, nothing I said had anything to do with your behavior at all, and the wording you take issue with was directed towards poor attitudes of living that are related to some of the styles of reaction exhibited here, not at any particular example. Also it was mostly just a bit of poking fun.
