Rayovac 4.0 - Huh?
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Black Rose
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I was curious about the technical info on these cells, so I sent an e-mail to Rayovac Customer Service.
The Costco in Plano, TX (west Plano store) had these last Friday. I looked at them and could not conclude what they really were - although I agree they must be NiMH "hybrids".
Their monthly mailout coupon book arrived at my house Saturday, and the current Eneloop package goes on sale with a $9 off coupon beginning Monday 11/17.
That will put the price of the Eneloop kit (8xAA, 2xAAA and a two channel wall charger) at about the same price as this mystery ROV deal.
Think I'll stick with the Eneloops. I have still have a few non-LSD Duracell and Energizer NiMH in various devices (GPS, camera, radio) and I want to go with LSD all the way, with a few spares. I'll have about 50 AA and AAA's total, and I got a Maha C9000 charger early this year - nothing but good experiences with this battery and charger combo.
Their monthly mailout coupon book arrived at my house Saturday, and the current Eneloop package goes on sale with a $9 off coupon beginning Monday 11/17.
That will put the price of the Eneloop kit (8xAA, 2xAAA and a two channel wall charger) at about the same price as this mystery ROV deal.
Think I'll stick with the Eneloops. I have still have a few non-LSD Duracell and Energizer NiMH in various devices (GPS, camera, radio) and I want to go with LSD all the way, with a few spares. I'll have about 50 AA and AAA's total, and I got a Maha C9000 charger early this year - nothing but good experiences with this battery and charger combo.
iamstuffed
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I stopped by the Hanover, MD store and they didn't have them there. I wanted to test them on my Maha C9000 and LaCrosse BC-900 chargers.
Stereodude
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They have them at the Costco in Livonia, MI on Haggerty Road. They are not available at the Costco in Commerce TWP, MI (yet?).
I agree they are very poorly labeled as to what they are. I'll stick to buying multiple sets of the $20 Eneloop packs instead. :naughty: I've got 3 coupons so far.
I agree they are very poorly labeled as to what they are. I'll stick to buying multiple sets of the $20 Eneloop packs instead. :naughty: I've got 3 coupons so far.
Turbo DV8
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I'll stick to buying multiple sets of the $20 Eneloop packs instead. :naughty: I've got 3 coupons so far.
I don't believe there is a limit to how many of the Eneloop kits you can buy with one coupon.
Hooked on Fenix
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Coupon has a limit of one. Check the back. I did.
Turbo DV8
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I understand that is what the fine print says on the back. What I should have perhaps been clearer on is I have never had a Costco cashier enforce that limit at check out. I have bought up to three or four things on one coupon with a limit of (1) and they never bat an eye. YMMV if you fill your cart with Eneloop kits, though!
Black Rose
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Not that I've seen.
I still haven't received a response to the message I sent to Rayovac about them a couple of weeks ago.
I still haven't received a response to the message I sent to Rayovac about them a couple of weeks ago.
Mr Happy
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We just need someone to slap a set through some tests and report back what they find. Seems like nobody's been enthusiastic enough to do that yet...
csshih
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sounds like a LSD.
It makes perfect sense that the capacity isn't labeled on the package as the average consumer will assume that a higher capacity automatically means the best battery for their particular use.
Not many folks outside of geeky hobbyists (myself included, of course!) know the difference between a Ni-mh 2700 and an LSD 2100. Which do you think the uninformed consumer would choose? This might actually be a great way to boost the sales of LSD batteries, hopefully spurring the manifactures to find a way to increase capicity.
Not many folks outside of geeky hobbyists (myself included, of course!) know the difference between a Ni-mh 2700 and an LSD 2100. Which do you think the uninformed consumer would choose? This might actually be a great way to boost the sales of LSD batteries, hopefully spurring the manifactures to find a way to increase capicity.
? Where'd my lengthy reply go? It had all my Rayovac Customer Support correspondence quoted. Well I'm new here, so mistakes are bound to happen.
Anyway, Rayovac 4.0 are 2100mAHR LSD NiMH batteries. The battery labeling is aimed at a less (much less) technical audience. It would have been nice if Rayovac had mentioned Hybrid, mAHR capacity and the like, in their labeling, even in the small print. The omissions seem purposeful. Perhaps to make the product appear special and new is part of a marketing ploy.
Anyway, Rayovac 4.0 are 2100mAHR LSD NiMH batteries. The battery labeling is aimed at a less (much less) technical audience. It would have been nice if Rayovac had mentioned Hybrid, mAHR capacity and the like, in their labeling, even in the small print. The omissions seem purposeful. Perhaps to make the product appear special and new is part of a marketing ploy.
Black Rose
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You should be able to edit your post and put it back in.
I still haven't heard from Rayovac about my original question. Very odd, as they usually respond within a day.
I still haven't heard from Rayovac about my original question. Very odd, as they usually respond within a day.
VidPro
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that is just plain MEAN advertising, doesnt it already take long enough to shop for the right things without some marketing genious HELPING everyone pick the right things out. :thumbsdow
Black Rose
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Most likely a little sabre rattling on Rayovac's part against Energizer.
Energizer filed a lawsuit against Rayovac for trying to sell AA/AAA Lithium primaries in the North American market.
Energizer filed a lawsuit against Rayovac for trying to sell AA/AAA Lithium primaries in the North American market.
Black Rose
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A sort of related post since we are assuming that these are relabelled Rayovac Hybrids.
Last week I noticed some AA Rayovac Hybrids at Wal-Mart with updated packaging and cell wrappers.
The hang card had ©2008 on the back whereas the last packs I saw had ©2006 on the back.
The interesting thing was that there was not any capacity information printed on the battery wrappers, unlike the Rayovac Hybrids I have here.
Last week I noticed some AA Rayovac Hybrids at Wal-Mart with updated packaging and cell wrappers.
The hang card had ©2008 on the back whereas the last packs I saw had ©2006 on the back.
The interesting thing was that there was not any capacity information printed on the battery wrappers, unlike the Rayovac Hybrids I have here.
