Real World Beamshots. D-Mini, DX U2, Ultrafire C2, Liteflux LF1

StefanFS

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I took some of my led flashlights out in the woods to see what they are made of. The D-Mini, EYJ U2 from DealExtreme and the Ultrafire C2 seem to be reasonably popular. The Liteflux is not so well known, but it's a personal favourite of mine. Pictures appear in that order D-Mini, EYJ U2, Ultrafire C2 and Liteflux LF1.

First set is at 15 meters at about shoulder height, like when you stretch out the arm. Second set is at 50 meters slightly above waist height. Exposure time is 8 seconds. The surroundings are very dark, total abscence of artificial light for miles. All lights are stock except the Liteflux which is modded with an SSC P4 U-bin. (The Ultrafire C2 had a defective led so I changed that to a new Cree P4, it does correspond to Lux figures that others have reported so it could be regarded as stock, I think). All flashlights use fresh LiIon 3.7 Volt cells. 18650 for EYJ U2 and C2, 14500 for the Liteflux and RCR123 in the D-Mini.

Set #1. 15 meters. The first are for side by side comparison. After comes the individual pictures.
1_1.jpg

1_2.jpg


1-1_Dmini_15m.jpg


1-2_U2style_15m.jpg


1-3_C2_15m.jpg


1-4_LF1_15m.jpg



Set #2. 50 meters. The first are for side by side comparison. After comes the individual pictures.
2_1.jpg

2_2.jpg


2-1_Dmini_50m.jpg


2-2_U2style_50m.jpg


2-3_C2_50m.jpg


2-4_LF1_50m.jpg


As usual nothing comes near the D-Mini in throw. But the EYJ U2 has awe inspiring amounts of output, it also throws better than the C2. The Liteflux has lots of output, but it doesn't throw very far compared with the bigger lights.

LumenLux.jpg


Tint on the D-Mini and Liteflux are superior for visibility with vegetation around. It also shows in the beamshots.

Lumens come from lightbox Lux readings, which obviously are out the lens. A big question mark on total output with the D-Mini, sice it's almost all throw it's difficult to get correct readings in a lightbox. My Ultrafire C2 have roughly the same output on 18650, RCR123 and Cr123 primary. Slightly more total output and throw on two RCR123, but I have a hard time seeing any difference without my instruments.

Stefan
 
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Great beamshots! I was actually wondering how the D-mini compared to the "U2" & C2. The C2 is supposed to outhrow the U2, but based on your beamshots ...I say the U2 has it.
 
Thanks for the useful comparison and pics.

I have a C2 on the way. have you compared output on 3.7v vs 6.0v vs. 7.2v ?
pics not needed, just impressions if available.
thanks
 
so the U2 and C2 both running on 18650's? because i thought C2 could throw further than the U2...maybe C2 throws furthers on 2x3.6v LIR123's?
But i guess i deeper reflector would catch more light than a wider one...
 
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Nice beamshots,:goodjob:

Now, do you have a cheap 2D cell incan or a minimag so you can produce a base beamshot?
 
Pumaman,
I did measure my C2. Both mA to the led and Lux with 2 x rcr123 3.7 Volt. The difference between RCR123 and 18650 is less than 800 Lux. It has a regulator circuit and the led gets pretty much the same mA regardless of what cells you use. With 18650 the led gets 1.09 A, I measured this when I changed the led. The C2 has a wider reflector not deeper, the C2 have more flood than the EYJ U2.

No, sorry, but I don't have a Coast 7438 Lenser.
 
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From the beamshots i can see that the hotspot of the U2 is a little brighter and also larger than the C2 but the review from http://www.lightreviews.info/ the C2's hotspot is hotter from being more focused but for the overall output the U2 is brighter...the lux values for lights always seem to vary for different people
 
Added Lux and ~Lumen~ readings to the first post.

Berto,
My C2 is not very much brighter with 2 x RCR123 3.7 Volt. It's brighter but not noticeable without a Luxmeter, but thats only my opinion.

Yapo,
My C2 also appear to have a brighter hotspot compared to the U2 style on the wall or at short distances. But the C2 hotspot is so much smaller than the U2 style, about 1/3 the size. When you use them side by side at distances over 10-15 meters the U2 wins. The U2 style has a better reflector in my opinion. It is also generally better constructed and have a better quality click switch than the C2. And it's slightly brighter than the C2.

The C2 has total output that's extreme for a budget light with one emitter, 8360-9070 Lux or 116-126 real Lumen. That's a lot of light. I measure throw at one meter with a dedicated Lux meter, in the dark. As a control I check sometimes with the Lux meter on my multimeter and against "known" lights. My meters correspond very well on "known" lights with for example Flashlightreviews, both on throw and total output.

Stefan
 
Ditto...thx stefan...i'm still waitin for my C2 to be shipped but i still hope its brighter than urs on 2 rcr123 lol
 
Very nice pics, Stefan. I love this outdoor beamshots, you really can tell the difference in the performance of the lights, which can be hard on white wall shots.
Thanks again. :goodjob:
 
Very nice job with your review. Looks like all your output figures are pretty accurate :goodjob: I also have a C2 on the way, figured it was a good buy for the money....it will make a good "beater" light for me :grin2:
 
I do notice a difference in brightness between CR123 and 18650 on C2. I think one issue is state of charge -- the C2 gradually gets dimmer as the 18650 reaches a lower state of charge (I think Kai's graph shows it running at 75% brightness for a lot of the runtime). Right now I modded my C2 with a forward clicky and I really only use it for short bursts much of the time (ie reading signs out the in dark, etc). Right now I just have a couple CR123s in there as I want both flat regulation, and shelf-life (I leave it stashed in the car). If I do intend to use it for extended runtime though, I've added a solder blob so that the 18650 will make contact.
 
I've been following all the threads about the C2 and U2-style pretty closely. It seems to me as though the C2 has a buck converter and the U2-style has a boost converter. That would explain why the U2-style is brighter especially at first because it would be operating in direct drive. And its possible with the C2 when using an 18650 that it shorly drops out of regulation due to low voltage.
 
Tessaiga said:
Guys, you should try this one out for size..

http://www.kaidomain.com/WEBUI/Prod...spx?TranID=1254

Really intense hotspot..

I have a DX U2 and this one just simply out throws it easily.. to give a comparison.. it is just bested by a bit by a 9P running a P90 bulb with fresh 123As..

That does look nice but the reason I love the DX U2 so much is its large hotspot and huge spill.
 
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