Running 8 Cree MC-E's???

mike_tech

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I just got all my parts in and I am going to start "tinkering" today. I will keep everybody posted. I wanted to put everything down and have everybody comment on it, especially BEFORE I power it all up.

I ordered 8 CREE MC-E stars. Each star/MC-E is setup for parallel, not series.

I have a 4 foot long piece of heatsink. My goal is to test an alternative to flourescent lighting for my workbench in my garage. Hence the reason I chose it to be 4' long and need to use multiple MC-E's.

I found a constant current power supply, the ELP60-27 made by Astrodyne. It is made for driving LED's. It puts out 2.3A constant, voltage of 15-27VDC and at 60Watts total.

I am going to mount the 8 MC-E stars on the 4' heatsink, evenly spaced, so they are about 5.3" from each other. I think that with a 4" wide by 4' long heatsink only holding 8 MC-E's at 5" from each other, there should not be a problem with overheating or keeping them cool. Anybody have any comments on that?

Last, I know that series is always best for consistency but that would require a power supply that has high voltage and .700mA constant current. I had a hard time finding this. So I am going with a series-parallel design. I am assuming that binning is easy with the MC-E with respect to the four LED's on the one die. You have to figure that it couldn't be binned any closer because they were put together at the same time on the same die. Therefore, I think it would be best to parallel the 4 LED's on the die and then run in series to the other LED's on the other dies.

This puts me at 4 parallel strings (due to the 4 LED's on the die) in series to the other MC-E's which will then be in paralled internally again. This puts me at 8 MC-E's total.

Here is where I need re-assurance and confidence before I power it all up. My math says that I will have 2.3A total, divided by my four parallel strings so each will get 575mA (2.3A / 4).

As for my voltage (which I know fluctuates slightly due to temperature) I have 2.5Vf per LED. In the series-parallel arrangement, this should put me total voltage drop around 20VDC (2.5Vf * 32 LED's = 80VDC / 4 parallel strings = 20VDC) which is well within my 15-27VDC range of my power supply.

Last, if each LED is around 2.5Vf and I give it 575mA, that should put me around 1.5Watts per LED (1.4375 to be exact but I like to round up). This 1.5Watts per LED multiplied by the 32 total LED's puts the total wattage at 48 which is under my 60Watts maximum allowed by the supply.

According to my math, this should all work out. Please, please let me know your comments. Especially if I am doing something wrong, missing something or if I can do it better. Otherwise, I will gladly share my results along the way.

Thanks!!

Mike
 
It sounds like you're running under the rated current of the MC-E, which is rated for up to 700 mA per die. I believe that the voltage will be a bit over 3.2v at your 575 mA, giving you around 1.6 Watts. I can't recall if your series/parallel will work as you expect, but it sounds like you'll be putting out 6.4 watts per MC-E. As long as your sheet metal is thicker than the superlight stuff (to carry heat away from the emitter) you shouldn't have any trouble with heat.
 
Thanks for the words of encouragement and confirmations!!! I am starting to get a little more comfortable.

I am going to get started on this project and will keep an eye on the forums in case anybody comes up with something.

As for the heatsink, I already mentioned it is 4" wide and 4 feet long. The core (solid aluminum) base of the heatsink that the MC-E's will mount to is .31" thick. Then it has 9 fins that are 1" long off of that (for a total of 1.31"). The specification that I think can be used to calculate the heat dissapation (although I will admit, I know very little about that) is 31 square inches of area per inch.

Thanks again!

Mike
 
I think AnAppleSnail is right. You will definitely have more than 2.5Vf per die @575mA. According to spec (http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLampMC-E.pdf) typical Vf is 3.2V @ 350mA and 3.4V @700mA and it may go as high as 3.9V in some cases.
To be safe side I would assume that power supply needs to provide at least 3.5V on average per MC-E (individual dies wired in parallel).
This gives you 28V and about 8W per LED.

I'm not sure how this Astrodyne ELP60-1227 works. Spec says constant output current with range 2.185 - 2.415. I'm guessing it may be tolerance. Output voltage is 13-27V and my guess would be that it will depend on total Vf of LED's connected with ~2.3A current flowing thru them.

I may be wrong but it seems like you may be right on the high limit of power supply with ~28V output and ~64W.
You may want to drop one LED, use 7 of them connect everything and check current and voltage on LED's. If they are low enought connect 8th.
 
I would agree with the advice provided and review the Vf at drive current on the data sheet. Furthermore if you have any question about the Astrodyne ELP specs/operation you can check the website (www.astrodyne.com) or call our technical support and we'd be happy to help.

Best of luck
 
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