First of all, the lumen rating quoted by Lumileds are for the bare emitter only and at a junction tempreture of 25 degrees C. Secondly, Surefire lumen ratings tend to be conservative and refer to the total amount of light coming out of the bezel , IE taking into account of the losses incurred by the reflector and lens etc.
Bear in mind, the KL6 uses the lumileds part, so the the apparant discrepencies in the quoted luminous flux are mainly due to different methods and conditions used in testing.
***ummmm....can we say off topic??? sorry for hijacking your thread, woodsman