cdrake261
Enlightened
Anybody know anybody or makes or mod a small form factor 1000 lumens light with a tailcap switch?
Small self defense flashlight
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depends on how small you want it. it isnt hard to do in a 1D mag (or anything else that takes 3xAA). but anything smaller than that and i think your asking a lot of power from a small battery. would something the size of a 2xAA maglite be too big?
CheepSteal
Enlightened
Possibly a triple XPG Oveready dropin (1100) lumens in a Surefire 6P Defender host w/ Mclicky?
Depends on your idea of small and your budget; I EDC a Z2 with another small multimode light every day comfortably.
Depends on your idea of small and your budget; I EDC a Z2 with another small multimode light every day comfortably.
cdrake261
Enlightened
1D is too large for this case
My plan is to have a to go with my pistol I plan on picking up, in case I need to search a dark area. You know, typical cop holding light in one hand and hand holding pistol sitting on top of wrist that has light... Whatever this position is called.
How big is a p6? How much to have one of those made? Where to find them?
Th232
Flashlight Enthusiast
From the Surefire website, a 6P is:
Oveready dropins are available from their website, should come up as the first hit when you google "Oveready".
Oveready dropins are available from their website, should come up as the first hit when you google "Oveready".
ElectronGuru
Flashaholic
Sounds like a Z2 with Rogers technique would do. Same as the 6P but designed for the 'gun grip'.
cdrake261
Enlightened
The over ready drop in with a surefire z2? Which battery to get most power out of the flashlight? Aw IMR's?
ElectronGuru
Flashaholic
The Triple is regulated and provides full power from either pair of cells. The choice is about the value or detriment of protection circuits, which IMRs don't have.
LiCo (black cell) 18500's provide more runtime. But the protection cuts power during use when voltage is low. Circuits can also fail. IMRs (red cell) 18490's provide less runtime, but don't have protection circuits that may prevent flashlight operation at a key moment.
cdrake261
Enlightened
So a surefire z2, the aftermarket clicker, overready triple xpg single mode 1100 lumens, and pair of aw IMR's...sure is an expensive investment.
Are there any more affordable options?
4sevens X10 though its only 640lm the throw is unmatched by something that fits in the hand
Not a clicky - its momentary tailcap with hi/low cycle and memory
And at 20 ft the triple xp-g is all flood though its brighter in the 1m beamshots
psychbeat has a good idea if you have a 6P style host
Not a clicky - its momentary tailcap with hi/low cycle and memory
And at 20 ft the triple xp-g is all flood though its brighter in the 1m beamshots
psychbeat has a good idea if you have a 6P style host
The_bad_Frag
Enlightened
Does it need to be 1000 lumens?
I like my Wolf-Eyes Krait when playing airsoft in the dark. When set to throw theres nearly no spill so its hard to see where the beam is comming from.
I like my Wolf-Eyes Krait when playing airsoft in the dark. When set to throw theres nearly no spill so its hard to see where the beam is comming from.
cdrake261
Enlightened
Do not have any suitable surefire host... I do like the z2s and the triple xpg for a total of 1100 lumens... Brighter the better, but within small package. Floody light is ok...
ElectronGuru
Flashaholic
Generally speaking: small, bright, cheap. pick any two.
In this case, a low amp XML setup will push 600 lumens for not much cash.
BTW, Z2's are discontinued and supply is drying up. Prices will be higher next year.
cdrake261
Enlightened
Three z2 models are listed on surefires website, two says they are discontinued.... You saying the third one(z2-s) is going to be discontinued as well?
ElectronGuru
Flashaholic
SF doesn't acknowledge drop in upgradability so their website makes a poor drop in reference. In this case, all non discontinued Z2's are as they come and cannot be upgraded as shown above.
CheepSteal
Enlightened
Is there a particular reason you explicitly need over 1000 lumens? It really does cut down on a lot of options and adds a lot of cost.
If you're using 1000 lumens to search small rooms at night (if the need arises) it might actually be too bright and blind you a little too.
Another thing to think about is: do you want a clicky switch or a tactical momentary only switch (ala the Surefire Z2). It's discussed that click switches are a liability in tactical/firearm encounters as it will give away your position (if you leave it on too long) and is difficult to operate with finesse under heavy stress.
I am in no way a LEO or military, so I've only gathered this information from logic reasoning and reading about it on here. Hope it makes sense and helps to make your decision!
If you're using 1000 lumens to search small rooms at night (if the need arises) it might actually be too bright and blind you a little too.
Another thing to think about is: do you want a clicky switch or a tactical momentary only switch (ala the Surefire Z2). It's discussed that click switches are a liability in tactical/firearm encounters as it will give away your position (if you leave it on too long) and is difficult to operate with finesse under heavy stress.
I am in no way a LEO or military, so I've only gathered this information from logic reasoning and reading about it on here. Hope it makes sense and helps to make your decision!
cdrake261
Enlightened
Ok... So if we change it to 600+ lumens, does that open up more options? I would really to be at least as bright as my tk30(rated at 630 lumens according to website) or my single cell XML mini mag. Momentary tailcap switch is a must, but I do not see why a toggle switch with an ability to halfway pressed in for momentary could not be used.
cdrake261
Enlightened
Ok... So if we change it to 600+ lumens, does that open up more options? I would really to be at least as bright as my tk30(rated at 630 lumens according to website) or my single cell XML mini mag. Momentary tailcap switch is a must, but I do not see why a toggle switch with an ability to halfway pressed in for momentary could not be used.
