Small thrower, preferably 18650 with minimum spill

[Przemo(c)]

HI all again,

Well, I need new light again
I'm looking for a pocket size thrower / spotlight which will produce maximum throw and minimum spill. I want literally sweep the landscape with the narrow, theatre like spotlight.
Ideally there should be the light which I can keep in my pocket, but if there isn't any, can be a bit bigger. To put it into perspective, the Acebeam K60 (which I own anyway (not to blown my own trumpet, just to say it for a reference point)) is brilliant as an overall, but for this particular purpose too big, I just need something a bit smaller. Let's say something like M2 warrior but with the bigger reflector.
Another reference point - Nitecore P25 Smilodon is not enough powerful for me and has too big spill. So I would need probably something around 2000 - 3000 lumens and tighter beam with similar size, if possible, but this is not necessary "must have" factor, if there is nothing of my request on the market.
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions.

 

[archimedes]

LED only, or LEP ?

 

[Przemo(c)]

Well, can be both if one of them does the job...
Thanks....

 

[archimedes]

Well, can be both if one of them does the job...
Thanks....

Not sure I understand you.

LEP seems that it might better provide the performance you are wanting, unless you prefer LED instead (and there are any number of reasons why that might be the case)

 

[RetroTechie]

LEP = Laser Excited Phosphor

 

[sp5it]

Have you seen Noctigon K1?

 

[Przemo(c)]

Yep, I've seen it, thanks. LEPs in this case will be the way forward for me, but from what I've found so far there are not so many on the market...?

 

[Derek Dean]

If you don't mind a do-it-yourself project, you might spend a bit of time investigating aspherical lenses. I had an old maglight that I had converted to LED, and by replacing the flat front glass with an inexpensive convex aspherical lens, it became a super thrower. Just a thought.

 

[lightfooted]

Have you checked out the Olight Warrior X. I mean it is specifically 2000 lumens and designed to be a thrower.

 

[ScubaSnyder]

From your description LEP maybe the way to go, acebeam w10 or W30.

 

[Fresh Light]

I have a K1 and I think anybody that wants a thrower should have one. The spill is very minor just like a TN42 in a light that feels less than half the overall size. While i've been intrigued by the LEP lights I feel like there is a ways to go in the gen 2 version of these to get more consistency and brightness improvements. But there isn't anything wrong being an early adopter and having something different than almost anybody else.

 

[Dave D]

Malkoff E2 Hyper Throw (35,000 Lux) with a MDC 18650 to E-Series Body.

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?462857-Malkoff-E2-Hyper-thoughts-and-beamshots

 

[Przemo(c)]

I think I'm gonna try LEP, as I have plenty of LEDs and it would be a shame for a flashaholic not to go this path when I know it now Besides I haven't got dedicated thrower. So far was always trying to buy versatile lights...
Probably the LEP I will buy will not be perfect, but I'm very reluctant to wait another 2-3 years until they upgrade it. The only worry I've got is availability, but will keep searching around...

 

[aginthelaw]

No lep is 2000 lumens, afaik. I'm pretty amazed with my blf gt micro, and it fits in your pocket. I would shamelessly plug the w30 I'm selling but the w10 is the pocket sized version.

 

[lion504]

If you don't mind a do-it-yourself project, you might spend a bit of time investigating aspherical lenses. I had an old maglight that I had converted to LED, and by replacing the flat front glass with an inexpensive convex aspherical lens, it became a super thrower. Just a thought.

Sent you a PM. Interested in any details you can share on your aspheric lens and LED choices. Thanks.

 

[Przemo(c)]

Thanks for your replies. I think i would go rather for LEP, than upgrades, as I don't have one yet. Anyone knows where to buy Acebeam W30? I know they're discontinued, but maybe someone knows something?
Alternatively any other brand which does LEPs?

 

[Fireclaw18]

Jetbeam M2S LEP. It looks to be about the same size as a long tube light. It could fit in a pocket and has a narrow head. 810K Lux.

 

[archimedes]

.... Alternatively any other brand which does LEPs?

Weltool ?

 

[easilyled]

I have the Acebeam W30 and it's great fun, but I can hardly think of any practical use for it. The beam is so laser-like that only a tiny section of whatever the light hits is lit up and it's so bright at near to medium range that it's difficult to make out what is being iliuminated. At really long distances, it may be a little more practical but there's only so far the eye can see anyway so when the beam is not bright enough to drown out the target anymore, at 1km+, can the eye really see that distance anyway?

EDIT: Instead of an LEP, I would recommend the ACEBEAM L16 which runs on an 18650 and uses an XHP35-HI. On max. the beam throws 600 meters and produces an output of 2000 lumens. This is a practical light because although it still throws very well indeed, one can easily see what is being illuminated. Also, unlike the W30, there are 4 or 5 different output levels including moonlight.

 

[peter yetman]

Very wise words.
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