Soldering iron

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Planning to do some mods, needs the basics to get started. I have one of those gun/trigger type soldering irons and have a feeling there are better options. Can someone start me off by suggesting a soldering iron, type of solder and flux, and any other things I'll need. Thanks.
 
Speaking from experience, just go ahead and buy a good soldering station and get that purchase behind you.

I started off with a couple of single power irons, 25 watt & 35 watt, then moved up. I never use the others now and shouldn't have bought them.
 
I just spent a few hundred on parts, then realized my soldering gun would probably mess things up. Best station under $200? Would that be adequate?

Please school me on solder and attaching a P7 to a star or heatsink, this is all new to me. I have two P7 emitters, 3 maglites, a AW bipin switch, a Nimh charger and batteries, lithium ion batteries, 6xAA and 9xAA battery packs, thermal grease, Artic Alum Silver, and am ready to start modding!
 
I bought my Weller soldering station on sale for $99 at a local electronics shop.

You can get a regular Seoul P4 heatsink from H22A and trim the top flat with a file or a Dremel, etc. Then get some Arctic Alumina epoxy to glue the emitter to it, centering the emitter well. Glueing a Seoul emitter down is a little tricky. You want the epoxy film to be as thin as possible, but if it's too thin the emitter will ground to the heatsink. That's why we use anodized heatsinks when we can with Seoul emitters, because the anodizing electrically isolates the emitter. But you'll cut through the anodizing to get the heatsink flat.

There are several ways to drive a P7. If you have a 9AA series battery holder you might be able to go with two Sandwich Shoppe SOB1500's run in parallel. There a quite a few threads popping up about driving this led. Have fun and keep us informed.
 
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Ever since I got a soldering station I don't understand how I was living with a regular solder iron. I've got a Hakko 936 & I absolutley love it. We use them at work too, every senior repair tech has a 936. Got mine for $60 on ebay, Fry's sells em for $90. I prefer the dial adjustment over the digital.
 
Under $200 is pretty easy. I have a hakko that i really love. I wouldn't give up a temp controlled iron for anything when working on electronics.
something like http://www.tequipment.net/Hakko936-12.html would be adequate. If you wanted a led temp readout, you could get one (for almost 100 more). I would suggest getting a couple tips. For general use, the 2mm wedge is excellent. Also a fine needle tip is nice for small work in tight places.

BTW, I'm slightly biased toward the hakko equipment since i own one. I went through the same process of finding a nice station when i decided my rat shack iron was making modding harder than it should be. (I also went overboard and got a unit 5 times better than i could ever need) What i have recommended will work great but I do not know if it's "the best". Still well worth the money.
 
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try to find a seller who will charge "fair" shipping to Hawaii.

I ordered 2 DHS heatsinks and didn't want to wait and ordered another one from Fenix. I just placed an order for the AMC7135 from Kai since DX was sold out (anyone want to sell me a couple so I can get started:naughty:), hopefully shipping won't be a month or more as others have reported.

Any suggestions on solder for P7 and hotwire incan mods?
How do you solder a SSC emitter to a star?
What gauge wire should I use for the led?
What should I use to sandwich the board together?
 
I can see how it could be easier to have a nice soldering station but would you still be able to do under dash soldering with one of those?
 
I don't get the craze with temp-controlled soldering stations. They don't automatically make one a great solderer. I mean I can solder Rebels cleanly and with 100% success rate with my Weller WP35 and eutectic solder.
 
I don't get the craze with temp-controlled soldering stations. They don't automatically make one a great solderer. I mean I can solder Rebels cleanly and with 100% success rate with my Weller WP35 and eutectic solder.

I too never understood the higher costs of soldering station. I used a 15w Hakko soldering iron & Weller 35w iron for years. Then I started using the Hakko 936 at my work I got hooked.

Soldering stations heat up instantly. No more waiting around till I get old for my damn iron to get hot especially having to solder just 2 connections & that's it. They also keep the heat consistent which regular soldering irons do not. My nicer irons seem to held the heat ok but not nearly as good as my 936.

My Hakko 936 is also ESD safe. ESD is an issue & just because you don't see it or feel static discharge it is there. I work a computer/laptop repair depot. ESD safety is highly emphasized. When customer like Sony, Gateway, NEW (Walmart, Office Depot), Assurant (Circuit City, COMPUSA), Warrantech (Microcenter), to name a few, come in ESD safety is one of the major things they look for.

ESD damage may have never happened to you & probably may never will if you just solder wires only. I now practice ESD safety to some extent. I used to roll my eyes & always say yeah right, ESD damage never happens. But it does.

Some may benifit from a Solder station, some may not. If you do a lot of soldering I highly recommend one.



I can see how it could be easier to have a nice soldering station but would you still be able to do under dash soldering with one of those?

When I worked under the dash & as a mechanic, my trusty Weller P2KC did the job just fine.

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I have use a Weller for years and only had to repair 2 times but each time the same component was easy to find. That's 2 times in about 28 yrs, not bad. ')
I have always thought it would be nice to have a variable station as changing the tips on mine takes a min or 2.

The Iron most seem to like comes in three models:
Item No: 936-11 (Small Iron)
Item No: 936-12 (Medium Iron)
Item No: 936-13 (Large Iron)
My question is do most prefer small or med for smd and such?. I have pleanty of larger irons when needed.

Thanks
X/BillyD..:tinfoil:
 
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