Icebreak
Flashlight Enthusiast
<font color="purple">*Edit* Some guys are giving calculated lumens so I'm adding two fields, RLumens(rated) and CLumens(calculated). Include those if you wish. We may need a couple other fields later but I can do that by breaking up the Discription field</font>
<font color="green">*Edit 01/11/05* I'll start updating the first post so you don't have to copy/paste/edit like a sign up list</font>
Quite a while back, FlashlightOCD thought it would be a good idea for members to post what bulbs they used with what host/battery configurations in the form of a list.
For a while I tracked this list in the form of a table. I've done a terrible job at updating the table so I wanted to ask if the HotWire folks would update the table with their discoveries.
There are plans in motion to build a much more useful SuperBulb table that may use information from my ugly little table. This will be done by one or more members that are much more expert than I. In the meantime it's nice to have it as a readily available Word document, Excel spreadsheet or Access table/query/report.
The structure is Reporting Member, Bulb, Volt Rating, Amp Rating,<font color="red">RLumens,CLumens</font> and Description. If you don't readily remember V or A don't worry about it. I suspect that "Discription" will be split into three fields; Batteries, Host and Comments. Maybe Resistance, VDrop and Run Time will also be separate fields in the future. I would like to keep the first field, "Reporting Member" because it is the best unique ID. If we maintain a unique ID then DB manipulation and queries will be easier. If we stick with the structure then I can much more easily create a CSV for the project. I want to clarify that I'm not the lead on the project. I'm just attempting to gather useful, well structured information for the project.
I know this is a lot to ask but the resulting work done by one or more experts will save us all hundreds of answer posts. Plus, I can barely remember the specs on just a few bulb/usage configurations. Also, if this is a rotten idea or too much of a PITA; that's cool. It's understandable.
But if you feel like it, please copy/add/edit/paste your submissions to the following table and then post it like we do in a sign-up thread. Except, this will be an "I've been there and done this" thread.
Thanks -
- Jeff
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Ginseng:
WA01318 (9.6V, 1.93A): Mag3C on 5x123 lith, Mag4C on 4.5 and 5x123 lith, Mag3D on 9xAA nimh, Mag3D 10xAA nimh in 2x modified EL 3-D holders (reduced resistance) and 1xRS 4AA holder also heavily modified for lower resistance and fit Designated “MoMag”.
WA01185 (9.6V, 3.15A): Mag3D on 9xAA nimh, Mag3D 10xAA nimh in 2x modified EL 3-D holders (reduced resistance) and 1xRS 4AA holder also heavily modified for lower resistance and fit
WA01274 (7.2V, 2.77A): Mag2D on 6xAA nimh, Mag3D on 6xAA nimh + 1D alkie
CA809: Mag3C on 4x123, Mag4C on 4.5x123
CA805: Mag3D on 3xD alkie, Mag3C on 3xC alkie
CA717: Mag3D on 4x123 lith, acid etched bulb
HPR51: on 3x123
CA1057: on 3x123 (brighter than HPR51).
Lemlux:
WA01319: UK D4
WA01111: MagCharger
WA01160: MagCharger
WA01317: DB8AA
WA01148: DB4AA on 6x123 lith
FlashlightOCD:
WA01160 + MagCharger = Very bright rechargeable light that will outperform a Tigerlight, with an output of about 500 lumens.
Phaserburn:
WA01160 + Powerstream 1/2D batts + MagCharger = runtime of 45-55.
Big D bulb 7.2V high nicad version*, 6V, 4A,,600 lumens, 24W Mag 2D 6 Nimh AA in 2 EL 3 to D holders
Tech A Billy:
WA01315: (6.27v 1.42A). Energizer 4AA Double Barrel modified to use six SF123's. Runs at 7.2 volts for over 250 lumens with a beam that’s nice and tight but not surefire perfect.
WA01286: (4.2v .70A) Energizer 4AAA modified with the DB6AA bulb - 4 NiMH AAA's in series - 70 lumens.
S4MadMan:
WA01660: MAG Charger - PowerStream 1/2Ds - recorded run times of 50-50-49-50 minutes.
WA01660+ Mag + Super WMP (WilkeyMagPack) with UCL vs. Tiger light FBOP + TL approved replacement lamp and batt pack + UCL
Icebreak:
KPR118: (7.2v 700mA) Mag 3D - 9 slightly used AAs @ 1.4v - 3 unmodified E.L. 3toD canisters for 12.6v - est. resistance 3X 1.25 Ohm. Beam =>2X as bright and hot spot is 2X as large as the original configuration.
WA01185 (9.6V, 3.15A): Mag3D on 5X123. Melted stock reflector in 2 minutes. Needs a PMR or a modified Aluminum Carley reflector.
Ailsnail:
WA1318 in mag 3c on 4 x 123 + 1 x E2
WA1274 in mag 3c on four partly spent 123's.
soloco: (as a CSV)
DB configs. and TB config, in response to 3A WA
CA808,,,2x4 123s in a 3D
WA1185,9.6V,3.15A,3x4 CR2s in a 2D
WA1274,7.2V,2.77A,2x3 123s in a 2D
MR16 20W,12V,~2A,5x2 123
WA1166,,,5x2 123 highest light efficacy I've seen. It's actually slightly underdriven with 10 123s in a 5x2 config. It's perfectly driven by 6 123s in series. I'm using Voltage per Cell = -0.4159 * Current + 3 in all my 123 calculations.
WA1274,7.2V,2.77A,2x3 123s in a 2D
Alan L:
CA717: Mag3D with 9 NiMH AAs in unmodified EL 3-to-D adapters.
Litho123:
The WA01318 I have has been running great @ 2 stacks of 4x123 with a calculated runtime of over 70 minutes.
Hookd_On_Photons:
Pelican Big D Rechargeable (6V SLA version) high-output bulb: Mag2D with 7 (or 8) NiMH AAs in a fivemega 8AA-to-2D adapter. Calculated output: 7 cells - 1029 lumens, 8 cells - 1642 lumens (vs. Mag60 - 1041 lumens)
JimH:
CL606 - Mag4D with alkalines, or any other form factor that gets you 6v. Calculated lumens 516.
GH24 - Mag 2C with 2 Pila 150A's. Calculated lumens = 418
WA1185 - Mag 4C with 3 Pila 168A's. Calculated lumens = 1234. Need metal reflector and borofloat lens
Bwaites:
CA1499- 2C with 3x123
Reflectalite GH24- 2C with 3x123
WA1111- 2C with 6xAA NiMH (MrBulk Assault and Batteries)
2D with 2 3AA to D
WA1160- Magcharger with 5 1/2D NiMH or NiCad
3C with 5x1/2 SubC
WA1185- MagCharger or Mag3D with custom made 9AA stick pack or
3 3AA-to-D Elektrolumen adaptors.
WA1274- Mag2D with 2 3AA-to-D or Mag3D with 3 3AA-to-D and
running 7 cells and 2 dummies.
Kiu:
Philips Foucsline 7388: 6V, 20W with 2X EL3AAtoD. By nake eye, the beam is almost the same with mag60. But this bulb have 100hrs life @6v.
Philips Foucsline 7023: 12V, 100W with 12AA for short burst
Snoopy:
Osram 64625 HLX (12V, 8.33A, 3600lm): Maglite 4D body with 2×10AA NiMh direct drive
Osram 64275 AX (6V, 5.83A, 780lm): Maglite 3D body with 5×1/2D NiCd direct drive
MoonRise:
CA1499(potted) - Mag 2C with 3x123 , measured current = 1.7A (12-15W taking into account voltage sag under load), short bursts or short runtime OK with stock Mag plastic reflector and lens, longer runs recommended to use metal reflector and glass lens. Reported to instaflash (by litho123 and/or bwaites) on twin-stack of 3x123 (not enough voltage sag, hence instaflash). Will light up an entire house front at 100 yards, 35 foot diameter hot spot and usable at that distance.
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<font color="green">*Edit 01/11/05* I'll start updating the first post so you don't have to copy/paste/edit like a sign up list</font>
Quite a while back, FlashlightOCD thought it would be a good idea for members to post what bulbs they used with what host/battery configurations in the form of a list.
For a while I tracked this list in the form of a table. I've done a terrible job at updating the table so I wanted to ask if the HotWire folks would update the table with their discoveries.
There are plans in motion to build a much more useful SuperBulb table that may use information from my ugly little table. This will be done by one or more members that are much more expert than I. In the meantime it's nice to have it as a readily available Word document, Excel spreadsheet or Access table/query/report.
The structure is Reporting Member, Bulb, Volt Rating, Amp Rating,<font color="red">RLumens,CLumens</font> and Description. If you don't readily remember V or A don't worry about it. I suspect that "Discription" will be split into three fields; Batteries, Host and Comments. Maybe Resistance, VDrop and Run Time will also be separate fields in the future. I would like to keep the first field, "Reporting Member" because it is the best unique ID. If we maintain a unique ID then DB manipulation and queries will be easier. If we stick with the structure then I can much more easily create a CSV for the project. I want to clarify that I'm not the lead on the project. I'm just attempting to gather useful, well structured information for the project.
I know this is a lot to ask but the resulting work done by one or more experts will save us all hundreds of answer posts. Plus, I can barely remember the specs on just a few bulb/usage configurations. Also, if this is a rotten idea or too much of a PITA; that's cool. It's understandable.
But if you feel like it, please copy/add/edit/paste your submissions to the following table and then post it like we do in a sign-up thread. Except, this will be an "I've been there and done this" thread.
Thanks -
- Jeff
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Ginseng:
WA01318 (9.6V, 1.93A): Mag3C on 5x123 lith, Mag4C on 4.5 and 5x123 lith, Mag3D on 9xAA nimh, Mag3D 10xAA nimh in 2x modified EL 3-D holders (reduced resistance) and 1xRS 4AA holder also heavily modified for lower resistance and fit Designated “MoMag”.
WA01185 (9.6V, 3.15A): Mag3D on 9xAA nimh, Mag3D 10xAA nimh in 2x modified EL 3-D holders (reduced resistance) and 1xRS 4AA holder also heavily modified for lower resistance and fit
WA01274 (7.2V, 2.77A): Mag2D on 6xAA nimh, Mag3D on 6xAA nimh + 1D alkie
CA809: Mag3C on 4x123, Mag4C on 4.5x123
CA805: Mag3D on 3xD alkie, Mag3C on 3xC alkie
CA717: Mag3D on 4x123 lith, acid etched bulb
HPR51: on 3x123
CA1057: on 3x123 (brighter than HPR51).
Lemlux:
WA01319: UK D4
WA01111: MagCharger
WA01160: MagCharger
WA01317: DB8AA
WA01148: DB4AA on 6x123 lith
FlashlightOCD:
WA01160 + MagCharger = Very bright rechargeable light that will outperform a Tigerlight, with an output of about 500 lumens.
Phaserburn:
WA01160 + Powerstream 1/2D batts + MagCharger = runtime of 45-55.
Big D bulb 7.2V high nicad version*, 6V, 4A,,600 lumens, 24W Mag 2D 6 Nimh AA in 2 EL 3 to D holders
Tech A Billy:
WA01315: (6.27v 1.42A). Energizer 4AA Double Barrel modified to use six SF123's. Runs at 7.2 volts for over 250 lumens with a beam that’s nice and tight but not surefire perfect.
WA01286: (4.2v .70A) Energizer 4AAA modified with the DB6AA bulb - 4 NiMH AAA's in series - 70 lumens.
S4MadMan:
WA01660: MAG Charger - PowerStream 1/2Ds - recorded run times of 50-50-49-50 minutes.
WA01660+ Mag + Super WMP (WilkeyMagPack) with UCL vs. Tiger light FBOP + TL approved replacement lamp and batt pack + UCL
Icebreak:
KPR118: (7.2v 700mA) Mag 3D - 9 slightly used AAs @ 1.4v - 3 unmodified E.L. 3toD canisters for 12.6v - est. resistance 3X 1.25 Ohm. Beam =>2X as bright and hot spot is 2X as large as the original configuration.
WA01185 (9.6V, 3.15A): Mag3D on 5X123. Melted stock reflector in 2 minutes. Needs a PMR or a modified Aluminum Carley reflector.
Ailsnail:
WA1318 in mag 3c on 4 x 123 + 1 x E2
WA1274 in mag 3c on four partly spent 123's.
soloco: (as a CSV)
DB configs. and TB config, in response to 3A WA
CA808,,,2x4 123s in a 3D
WA1185,9.6V,3.15A,3x4 CR2s in a 2D
WA1274,7.2V,2.77A,2x3 123s in a 2D
MR16 20W,12V,~2A,5x2 123
WA1166,,,5x2 123 highest light efficacy I've seen. It's actually slightly underdriven with 10 123s in a 5x2 config. It's perfectly driven by 6 123s in series. I'm using Voltage per Cell = -0.4159 * Current + 3 in all my 123 calculations.
WA1274,7.2V,2.77A,2x3 123s in a 2D
Alan L:
CA717: Mag3D with 9 NiMH AAs in unmodified EL 3-to-D adapters.
Litho123:
The WA01318 I have has been running great @ 2 stacks of 4x123 with a calculated runtime of over 70 minutes.
Hookd_On_Photons:
Pelican Big D Rechargeable (6V SLA version) high-output bulb: Mag2D with 7 (or 8) NiMH AAs in a fivemega 8AA-to-2D adapter. Calculated output: 7 cells - 1029 lumens, 8 cells - 1642 lumens (vs. Mag60 - 1041 lumens)
JimH:
CL606 - Mag4D with alkalines, or any other form factor that gets you 6v. Calculated lumens 516.
GH24 - Mag 2C with 2 Pila 150A's. Calculated lumens = 418
WA1185 - Mag 4C with 3 Pila 168A's. Calculated lumens = 1234. Need metal reflector and borofloat lens
Bwaites:
CA1499- 2C with 3x123
Reflectalite GH24- 2C with 3x123
WA1111- 2C with 6xAA NiMH (MrBulk Assault and Batteries)
2D with 2 3AA to D
WA1160- Magcharger with 5 1/2D NiMH or NiCad
3C with 5x1/2 SubC
WA1185- MagCharger or Mag3D with custom made 9AA stick pack or
3 3AA-to-D Elektrolumen adaptors.
WA1274- Mag2D with 2 3AA-to-D or Mag3D with 3 3AA-to-D and
running 7 cells and 2 dummies.
Kiu:
Philips Foucsline 7388: 6V, 20W with 2X EL3AAtoD. By nake eye, the beam is almost the same with mag60. But this bulb have 100hrs life @6v.
Philips Foucsline 7023: 12V, 100W with 12AA for short burst
Snoopy:
Osram 64625 HLX (12V, 8.33A, 3600lm): Maglite 4D body with 2×10AA NiMh direct drive
Osram 64275 AX (6V, 5.83A, 780lm): Maglite 3D body with 5×1/2D NiCd direct drive
MoonRise:
CA1499(potted) - Mag 2C with 3x123 , measured current = 1.7A (12-15W taking into account voltage sag under load), short bursts or short runtime OK with stock Mag plastic reflector and lens, longer runs recommended to use metal reflector and glass lens. Reported to instaflash (by litho123 and/or bwaites) on twin-stack of 3x123 (not enough voltage sag, hence instaflash). Will light up an entire house front at 100 yards, 35 foot diameter hot spot and usable at that distance.
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