Tiablo A1 Rebel 100

[ernsanada]

I just received my Tiablo A1 Rebel 100 from Battery Junction

Shipping took 2 days.

Uses Luxeon Rebel 100.

Housing Material: Aerospace grade T7075 aluminium.

Twist on and off. Action is good but not buttery smooth.
Fit and finish is good.

Type III Hard Anodize is excellent, no color mis-match.

I have some debris inside the lens. Has GID o-ring under the lens.

Uses Primary AAA or NiMh/NiCD Rechargeable. The voltage is 0.7V to 2.7V.

Comes with instructions and 2 o-rings.

My light has debris in the lens.

Looking at the back of the Rebel Module.

Use a spring on the -ve battery side.

Size comparison. Top, Tiablo A1. Bottom, Fenix LOD Q2

Left, Tiablo A1. Right, Fenix LOD Q2

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I also took lux readings of the lights shown above. These are the lux readings I got. I am using a Meterman LM631 Light Meter measured at 1 meter. I waited 2 minutes before taking the readings. I am using Energizer Nimh AAA Rechargeable Batteries, 850mAh which were fully charged.

Tiablo A1 Rebel 100 - 430 lux @ 1 meter

Fenix LOD Q2 - 240 lux @ 1 meter


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Tiablo A1 Rebel 100 @ 1 meter

Fenix LOD Q2 @ 1 meter

Left, Tiablo A1 Rebel 100. Right, Fenix LOD Q2 @ 1 meter

Left, Tiablo A1 Rebel 100. Right, Fenix LOD Q2 @ 1 meter Stepped down exposure.

 

[mikehill]

Looks like a very nice light ... apart from the debris ... do they not have a clean area in the factory ? :sigh:

 

[Nake]

Thanks for the review. The tint on yours looks to be on the cool side. When I compare mine to my P3D RB100 it is warmer than the P3D on med.

 

[Hitthespot]

Nice pictures. I like the hand shots, good job. They really show the small size of this light. It looks perfect for pocket carry.

 

[uh1c]

Your pictures are always top notch! Thanks!:twothumbs
What camera and settings are you using?; the macros are amazing in clarity!

BTW, mine was debris free. Luck of the draw, I guess. Sorry you got one with stuff in it. Bummer.

 

[f22shift]

any real world runtime?

 

[WadeF]

Looks good, other than the junk inside the head. I'll give one a try.

 

[Nake]

I wonder, if there's 10440 sized battery produced by anyone that is in the 2.5V-3.0V range. I bet this light would really brighten up with one.

 

[RainerWahnsinn]

Hello ernsanada,
thank you, your review eases my decision quite considerably

Rainer

 

[Rzr800]

Just got mine (uh..'hers') today and didn't really study it very hard except to compare it with her (former) LOD Q4 in the basement. I don't know what to say other than it's a nicer light, IMO. Not knocking the LOD; yet it's simply a much better thrower; noticeably brighter and has decent spill.

I got it for my wife because I didn't like her fumbling through the modes...wish I could've kept it for myself.

 

[swxb12]

Another great contribution. Many thanks, ernsanada.

Housing Material: Aerospace grade T7075 aluminium.

Overall, does the A1 feel more durable/expensive, overall nicer than Fenix?

 

[42]

Another great contribution. Many thanks, ernsanada.



Overall, does the A1 feel more durable/expensive, overall nicer than Fenix?

I have a couple L0Ds and the A1 strikes me as being a step above. Nothing against the Fenix light, it's still a great light but the A1 is built more like a tiny tactical light. Very sturdy, threads as smooth as glass, flawless type III anodizing and a wider and deeper head/reflector for a nicer beam.

I like this light a LOT.

 

[swxb12]

I have a couple L0Ds and the A1 strikes me as being a step above. Nothing against the Fenix light, it's still a great light but the A1 is built more like a tiny tactical light. Very sturdy, threads as smooth as glass, flawless type III anodizing and a wider and deeper head/reflector for a nicer beam.

I like this light a LOT.

Thanks! I'm really interested in this simple light now.

 

[Phaserburn]

How is the runtime and regulation of the A1? Does it get hot, or can you use it for a full burn?

 

[WadeF]

I got mine today, and mine also has debris behind the lens.

I get LUX readigs around 530LUX, my LOD-CE Q4 is around 430LUX. I just took some quick readings, so those #'s might be a bit off, but they were around there. I was expecting more output if the emitter is putting out 100 lumens, especially since the Tiablo has a tighter beam than the LOD-CE, much less spill than the LOD-CE. My P2D on high (80 lumens) blows it away, and reads around 1,150lux on my meter (all readings at 1 meter).

My LUX readings seem comparable to ersanada's, my LUX meter appears to read a bit higher. Just doesn't seem like we're getting 100 lumens at the emitter though. Tiablo claims to be driving the Rebel100 at 350mA, is that enough current to even produce 100 emitter lumens?

I'm not sure if I can say it's putting out any more lumens than my LOD-CE Q4 since the beam is tighter, but the hot spot of the Tiablo is a tad brighter. Also the tint is great with my Tiablo, warmer than my LOD-CE Q4.

Mine also had scratches out of the box where the clip is attached, but I guess that is to be expected. Also there is what looks like red loctite residue visible around where the bezel and head screw together. Shame I can't unscrew it to get the debris out.

Hopefully Tiablo will step up QC on this model as I've heard so many good things about the Tiablo A8's, A9's as far as the quality of their finish and build.

Dealers may want to inspect these lights before sending them out as the deris in mine are easily spotted. Mine has a piece of someting right behind the glass by the GITD o-ring, so it may not effect the beam to any noticeable degree, so I may just live with it. I'd be more worried if I had one like ersanada's where the debris were down on the reflector where they might fall onto the emitter. I'm hoping my debris stay put.

 

[Nake]

Mine shows 2800 lux according to my lightbox. That's 39lm using the conversion formula. For comparison my Q5 LOD shows 45lm, both using a NiMh battery.

It has a scratch/mark running the length of the bezel, and also had excess glue at the joint. Cleaned up pretty good using a dental pick.

My tint is also warm like my P3D RB100.

Looks like a keeper to me, nice beam shape.

 

[WadeF]

So is there something wrong with our lights?

"Introducing the Tiablo A1 Rebel 100 LED flashlight, the first common single AAA flashlight in its class to produce over 110 lumens with an estimated run time of 80 minutes to 50% brightness and a total runtime of 2.5+ hours usable light."

It doesn't seem to be anywhere close to 110 lumens.

 

[Jay T]

So is there something wrong with our lights?

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No there is nothing wrong with the light, it does exactly as it was designed to do! Notice how thin your wallet is.

 

[Jay T]

Tiablo claims to be driving the Rebel100 at 350mA, is that enough current to even produce 100 emitter lumens?

I

Well it is a Rebel 100, binned to deliver 100 lumens at 350ma.

However

In another thread in the Led light section someone measured the current being drawn from the battery as 660ma. Now this is at 1.2 volt so 660 x 1.2 = .792 Watts. if the Vf of the rebel is say 3.2V then .792W would give about 250ma at 3.2V.

But

Of course the conversion isn't 100%. 80%-85% seems to about the norm for converter efficiency thus leaving only about 200ma hitting the emitter.

These numbers of course depend upon the accuracy of the current measurements.

 

[WadeF]

Ha, I wasn't thinking Rebel100 means 100 lumens at 350mA.

I got a little over 700mA being drawn from my 1.5V Energizer lithium AAA.

200mA to the emitter sounds more realistic with the output I'm seeing. Comparing it to Fenix lights that claim around 80 lumens at the emitter, the Fenix's are brighter. Hopefully we'll get some more reports from A1 owners who can take lux readings, light box readings, etc, but I have a feeling Tiablo has over-rated this light.