which bulb(s) has good beam pattern?

vacuum3d

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I've been playing with WA bulbs lately. They're pretty bright, but I really don't like that bowtie beam pattern. Is there any alternative to WA bulbs that are equally bright, but with a rounder/smaller beam pattern? I know those sputtered reflectors will smooth out the beam somewhat, but it takes heavy sputtering to make it look decent, and that takes away a lot of throw.


thx,
ernest
 
Carley 1499, T1.5 size bulb, smaller diameter glass envelope than the WA's. 7.2v/1.84a 385lumens. M*g2D with 8AA-2D adapter running a M*g6-cell xenon bulb will output even less lumens, but the hotspot will be slightly smaller and very white (note, I think I have need for better set of batteries, and/or way to reduce resistance for the test M*glite, and/or the 8AA-2D adapter, so YMMV, you may instaflash or get too short a lifespan for your liking). I love the white light I'm getting from my particular setup with the M*g6-cell xenon bulb.

Note also, something bwaites and Ginseng have not mentioned yet (to my knowledge) about the M*g bi-pin adapter using M*gChr socket. That socket is of a specific width, you will likely need to use needle-nose pliers to bend bulb leads of differing widths to fit into the M*gChr bi-pin socket, and you may end up with broken leads and wasted bulb...I have done it myself a number of times, the leads are somewhat brittle and difficult to bend. YMMV. Maybe the M*gChr (Welch-Allyn makes it?) bulb, rated at 175 lumens or so, overdriven with the 8AA-2D adapter will get you a tight spot?

MOP or LOP reflectors only smooth out the pattern and don't change the shape much, but it's the filament width that makes for a tighter hotspot (proper centering in the reflector also effects that uniformity of the hotspot).

Not sure about this, but there maybe a axial filament Carley 852 (500lumens, 6v/3.33a) in the works in the next month or so?---from fivemega, but don't quote me on that.

A more detailed specification of which bulbs you have tried, and what flashlight configuration, including type of batteries, would be helpful in recommending what you need. Ginseng has information on where to get an Osram projector bulb that also has an axial filament, which gets you that nice round beam you seek. 6v/3.33a 470lm?
 
Ernest,

Axial filament bulbs are the only way to completely eliminate the bowtie effect. What you give up is some intensity in the very center of the hotspot. I'm sorry to say that there are no axial filament bulbs in the Carley or WA lineups. Osram offer axials, but only in larger bulb sizes.

There is another option though but it does not involve bulbs. You can place a holographic diffuser in front of the head to very dramatically smooth out the beam. I used to use a SF FM34 flip-up diffuser on my big Mag mods. Throw will be significantly reduced but the beam becomes intensely even. Beautiful even beyond what orange peel texturizing can achieve.

Wilkey
 
hm... I guess I can't have both. Either put up with the ugly beam pattern, or lose lumens. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Thanks guys.


ernest
 
The stock MC bulb on 6AA NiMH is bright but not perfect of beam. The first time I ran it I HATED the beam. After smoking a M*g Xenon Star I put the MC bulb back.

Much better this time. Still not perfect.
 
vacuum, before giving up try two or three side by side strips of Scotch Satin 3/4" tape on the lens. I think this stuff comes wider, too, but maybe with a different name. Some guys have tried two layers in opposite directions. One layer doesn't seem to reduce the lumens that I can tell without using a meter. I've made some awful lights much more useful with this stuff, using only one layer.
 
jayflash, I've tried the Satin tape. I actually like it, except that it looks kinda cheesy, and it melts the glue on the tape after prolong use. I've also tried the diffused lense from flashlightlens.com. Beam pattern becomes even, but again, light output is drastically reduced. Haven't found a good solution yet.


ernest
 
Jim, thx for the link. This is very interesting. I think I might try one, but it looks like it is still gonna reduce throw quite a bit.


ernest
 
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