Wizard / Wizard Pro. Multi-flashlights.

[ArmyTek]

Hi Crane,

Please read my earlier posts above the packaging question. I would like to know if/when Armytek was going to offer some flashlights to reviewers for an in dept review of the light. They told me that they will send the flashlights when they finished the new packaging boxes...

Yes, you got it right.

 

[ArmyTek]

Really a good flashlight. I just loved the multiple functionality.

Thank you for your kind words.

 

[Crane]

Possibly, we will produce a limited edition with more warm diodes (like 90CRI). And we want to notice that we don`t use diodes by default, because it is weak in comparison with cold and neutral.

they are weaker because they simply have a filter over the phosphorus, you should try coming up with a Amber R02 colored honey comb glass, this color is what Apple iPhone uses to give the "natural" flash-light. This same ******* Amber is what I see on your "warm" as you call 90CRI flashlights when I look on the reflector. So I mean it wouldn't hurt to test a regular high powered cold LED with a ******* amber filter, results could be better or same, but LEDs for the lights would be cheaper, if this works you just got a $1mil idea
http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server4...ges/19390/R02__27787.1409128393.1280.1280.jpg
Opinion?

also, found this on inter-webs, any idea what he's done to make it blue? or is it the moonlight on the cold version? http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hp...e15/10860137_1385273295110156_699755674_n.jpg

 

[Lumencrazy]

Color filters, diffusers, and etc., are ancient technologies and terribly inefficient, with up to % 40 loss in the case of white diffusers (depending on many factors). This amber filter looses about %22.

 

[Crane]

Color filters, diffusers, and etc., are ancient technologies and terribly inefficient, with up to % 40 loss in the case of white diffusers (depending on many factors). This amber filter looses about %22.

no that's false, you think how else do they get different LED tints? they stain the phosphorus, hence the reduced power, and not 40% loss, but 22% loss, open the picture I posted, the first one, and it shows something called "transmission rate" same or around that amount of lumens you lose when you get neutral white and warm white LEDs

 

[FlashlightR]

Hi Armytek,

I have some questions regarding the thermal management of the new wizard pro and non pro:

1: What I understand is that when the lights have reached the cut off temperature the light output will drop to a lower level. Is this drop down implemented the same as with my older v1.5 ? I mean I hope it is not the same drop down to a bad controlled pwm level with some buzzing sound like my old v1.5

2: Does the light output step up automatically when the light is cooled down ? ( just like with e.g. Zebralight PID controller solution)

 

[ArmyTek]

Hi Armytek,

I have some questions regarding the thermal management of the new wizard pro and non pro:

1: What I understand is that when the lights have reached the cut off temperature the light output will drop to a lower level. Is this drop down implemented the same as with my older v1.5 ? I mean I hope it is not the same drop down to a bad controlled pwm level with some buzzing sound like my old v1.5

2: Does the light output step up automatically when the light is cooled down ? ( just like with e.g. Zebralight PID controller solution)

Hi!

Thank you for the questions.

1. If you hear a sound in the Firefly in your 1.5 - you should contact [email protected] and describe your problem to our specialist. Because this should not be.

2. Yes, when the flashlight cools down, the light output steps up automatically.

 

[FlashlightR]

Thanks for the answer! Last year I have already sent back my v1.5 to a local dealer. Now all previous issues seem to be solved I am interested in buying the v2. Good to read that the light steps up automatically. Due to your exellent service and sturdy products I will stick to Armytek!

 

[ArmyTek]

Thanks for the answer! Last year I have already sent back my v1.5 to a local dealer. Now all previous issues seem to be solved I am interested in buying the v2. Good to read that the light steps up automatically. Due to your exellent service and sturdy products I will stick to Armytek!

You are welcome! Thank you for being with us. Enjoy your flashlight.

 

[FlashlightR]

Hi Armytek,

could you please give me an update? I still can't find any in dept reviews of the V2 wizards.

 

[ArmyTek]

Hi Armytek,

could you please give me an update? I still can't find any in dept reviews of the V2 wizards.

Hi, FlashlightR!

Sure, PM sent.

 

[YahFargo]

Hello,

Can you tell me the capacity of the battery used in calculating the run times listed for the V2 wizards? thanks

 

[desmobob]

I have a Taira C1 Pro v2 and I really like it. I couldn't resist ordering a Wizard Pro v.2 Warm, so I placed my order last night. Now, the wait....

Thanks for participating in the forum and offering a discount code for forum members. It is appreciated.

Take it easy,
Bob

 

[underconstruction]

I am deciding between the wizard pro and wizard non pro. According to the specs:

non-PRO 35 lumens for 48hrs
PRO 70 lumens for 48hrs

Is the PRO really 2x as efficient at these modes or is it a typo? I am curious as these modes will be my most used modes for this light. Thanks.

 

[ArmyTek]

Hello,

Can you tell me the capacity of the battery used in calculating the run times listed for the V2 wizards? thanks

Hello! I will clarify this information for you.


Armytek Wizard v2 XM-L2:


Runtime for maximal mode: 1h 30min
Runtime for minimal mode: 100 days
http://www.armytek.com/products/flashlights/headlamps/armytek-wizard-xm-l2.html



Armytek Wizard Pro v2 XM-L2:
Runtime for maximal mode: 1h 6min
Runtime for minimal mode: 100 days
http://www.armytek.com/products/flashlights/headlamps/armytek-wizard-pro-xm-l2.html

I have a Taira C1 Pro v2 and I really like it. I couldn't resist ordering a Wizard Pro v.2 Warm, so I placed my order last night. Now, the wait....


Thanks for participating in the forum and offering a discount code for forum members. It is appreciated.


Take it easy,
Bob

Thank you for staying with us, Bob! Waiting for your opinion about the flashlight here.

I am deciding between the wizard pro and wizard non pro. According to the specs:


non-PRO 35 lumens for 48hrs
PRO 70 lumens for 48hrs


Is the PRO really 2x as efficient at these modes or is it a typo? I am curious as these modes will be my most used modes for this light. Thanks.

No, it is not a typo. One of the main differences of Pro version is that it has full stabilization. So it will be a better choice.
Don`t hesitate to contact us if you need any information. And don`t forget about our promo code "cpf8" discount - it helps to save some money.

 

[rfl]

Originally Posted by underconstruction
I am deciding between the wizard pro and wizard non pro. According to the specs:


non-PRO 35 lumens for 48hrs
PRO 70 lumens for 48hrs


Is the PRO really 2x as efficient at these modes or is it a typo? I am curious as these modes will be my most used modes for this light. Thanks.

Hello! I will clarify this information for you.

No, it is not a typo. One of the main differences of Pro version is that it has full stabilization. So it will be a better choice.
Don`t hesitate to contact us if you need any information. And don`t forget about our promo code "cpf8" discount - it helps to save some money.

underconstruction:
It must be a typo. 48h at 70l (probably) isn't achievable by a single 18650 flashlight. The following figures, which see more reasonable, come from the manuals.

Wizard Pro: Firefly1: 0.2lm / 100d, Firefly2: 2lm / 18d, Firefly3: 15lm / 72h, Main1: 70lm / 18h, Main2: 200lm / 8.5hMain3: 420lm / 3.5h, Max: 1050lm / 1.1h

Wizard: Firefly1: 0.2lm / 100d, Firefly2: 2lm / 18d, Main1: 35lm / 48h, Main2: 200lm / 8.5h, Main3: 420lm / 3.5h, Max: 1050lm / 1.5

ArmyTek:
Full stabilization is a feature that maintains constant brightness. It does not increase runtimes. In fact it sacrifices runtime to maintain constant brightness. For some purposes the Pro version with full stabilization is better. For other purposes the non pro with step down is better. Unless the Pro can disable the full stabilization, then it isn't always better.

 

[ArmyTek]

Thank you, guys, for your attention! We'd haven't find out about it without you.

We have just clarified - it is a real typo. Our technical manager will correct it on the website!

 

[mdocod]

Just wanted to give a round of applause for the Wizard Pro V2 Warm.

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Just received a pair of these headlamps. Initial impressions are very positive. I am happy to report that the V2's seem to operate like the mature products I was hoping for.

• I think the switch feels great and absolutely love the position of the switch compared with competing headlamps in this class. Switch is easy to perform the multi-click functions required to navigate the UI.
• I'm not experiencing any problems with the beacon/state-indicator enabled in firefly modes (some other users have reported problems, both of mine are fine).
• I think the "warm" tint is fantastic. I like it so much that this is going to be a major factor for future flashlight buying.
• I like the armytek "styling" that does away with knurling in favor of a flat black "micro" texture.
• I like the modes, and feel they are intelligently spaced.
• I like the interface, and am happy to report that the UI, which was influenced by CPF member feedback, is pretty darn good considering how much it is attempting to accomplish through a single button.
• I like the flat-top cell support with built-in over-discharge protection.
• I like the beam pattern, a LOT. This is like, a precision tuned narrow flood with a soft transition. This is far more camp/work friendly in terms of glare issues than frosted lens and bare emitter systems.
• As a back-packer, I am impressed by the weight, comfort, and value offered by this headlamp.
• With the top strap and magnet removed, with an NCR18650B loaded, this headlamp weighs just ~4.5oz. To put that in perspective, typical "quality brand" (found at say, REI) plastic clamshell 3AAA headlamps weigh ~3oz with batteries installed. That 50% higher weight buys more than 4X the energy on board and significantly more flexible use and control over that stored energy, (lower lows, higher highs, dead flat regulation).

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2 interesting tidbits to consider...

The battery state indication system appears to be semi-optimized around Panasonic NCR18650A/B type cells. It doesn't begin reporting the "<50%" yellow beacon until <3.6V, which, on many li-ion cells would be ~10-15% remaining capacity, but on these Panasonic cells is closer to ~25% remaining capacity. The "<25%" orange beacon seems to kick in ~3.25V (which would be ~5% remaining), and the "<5%" red beacon seems to kick in ~3.1V, (which would actually be ~1% remaining).

I would not want to use any other cell types in these, as the battery indicator system would likely prove less useful. As it stands currently, it is useful with these cells, but the actual remaining capacity at each color shift is quite a bit lower than what is listed in the manual/specs for the light. At least, that seems to be the case with my samples. I'm perfectly happy with the indication system, even though it doesn't work exactly as described. I do however, wish the light had the option to have the beacon blink in a manner that would report voltage using the same simple "language" leveraged by the earlier version wizards for state indication in group 4.

The runtime claims for each mode may be a little off. Based on my measurements, they may actually be BETTER than claimed, at ~6 months, ~1 month, ~1 week, ~1 day, ~12 hour, ~4 hour, and ~1 hour respectively for each mode starting with firely 1 through Max.

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I wonder if there are any hidden modes or mode groups on these lights, accessible via hamster dance switch actuation or something.

 

[scs]

Just wanted to give a round of applause for the Wizard Pro V2 Warm.

----------

Just received a pair of these headlamps. Initial impressions are very positive. I am happy to report that the V2's seem to operate like the mature products I was hoping for.

• I think the switch feels great and absolutely love the position of the switch compared with competing headlamps in this class. Switch is easy to perform the multi-click functions required to navigate the UI.
• I'm not experiencing any problems with the beacon/state-indicator enabled in firefly modes (some other users have reported problems, both of mine are fine).
• I think the "warm" tint is fantastic. I like it so much that this is going to be a major factor for future flashlight buying.
• I like the armytek "styling" that does away with knurling in favor of a flat black "micro" texture.
• I like the modes, and feel they are intelligently spaced.
• I like the interface, and am happy to report that the UI, which was influenced by CPF member feedback, is pretty darn good considering how much it is attempting to accomplish through a single button.
• I like the flat-top cell support with built-in over-discharge protection.
• I like the beam pattern, a LOT. This is like, a precision tuned narrow flood with a soft transition. This is far more camp/work friendly in terms of glare issues than frosted lens and bare emitter systems.
• As a back-packer, I am impressed by the weight, comfort, and value offered by this headlamp.
• With the top strap and magnet removed, with an NCR18650B loaded, this headlamp weighs just ~4.5oz. To put that in perspective, typical "quality brand" (found at say, REI) plastic clamshell 3AAA headlamps weigh ~3oz with batteries installed. That 50% higher weight buys more than 4X the energy on board and significantly more flexible use and control over that stored energy, (lower lows, higher highs, dead flat regulation).

---------

2 interesting tidbits to consider...

The battery state indication system appears to be semi-optimized around Panasonic NCR18650A/B type cells. It doesn't begin reporting the "<50%" yellow beacon until <3.6V, which, on many li-ion cells would be ~10-15% remaining capacity, but on these Panasonic cells is closer to ~25% remaining capacity. The "<25%" orange beacon seems to kick in ~3.25V (which would be ~5% remaining), and the "<5%" red beacon seems to kick in ~3.1V, (which would actually be ~1% remaining).

I would not want to use any other cell types in these, as the battery indicator system would likely prove less useful. As it stands currently, it is useful with these cells, but the actual remaining capacity at each color shift is quite a bit lower than what is listed in the manual/specs for the light. At least, that seems to be the case with my samples. I'm perfectly happy with the indication system, even though it doesn't work exactly as described. I do however, wish the light had the option to have the beacon blink in a manner that would report voltage using the same simple "language" leveraged by the earlier version wizards for state indication in group 4.

The runtime claims for each mode may be a little off. Based on my measurements, they may actually be BETTER than claimed, at ~6 months, ~1 month, ~1 week, ~1 day, ~12 hour, ~4 hour, and ~1 hour respectively for each mode starting with firely 1 through Max.

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I wonder if there are any hidden modes or mode groups on these lights, accessible via hamster dance switch actuation or something.

Did you buy direct from armytek's website?

Based on armytek's response in its Dobermann thread, it sounds like armytek had sold dealers a "pre-release" batch of lights that don't match official specs. Armytek states that dealers should have made that known to customers.

 

[mdocod]

Did you buy direct from armytek's website?

Based on armytek's response in its Dobermann thread, it sounds like armytek had sold dealers a "pre-release" batch of lights that don't match official specs. Armytek states that dealers should have made that known to customers.

I just read that response in the dobermann thread. I have no reason to believe, based on reading that, that there are any "pre-release" Wizard V2's out there with different specifications.

If there are, no, I was not made aware of any differences. I ordered mine from illumn.